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Teachers - how much do you earn?

207 replies

coopekid · 07/01/2021 11:13

So it's my 5th year of teaching, not in London or fringe, and I am on £27,260 and have been since Sep 19 (no across-the-board pay increase as announced last summer for me Hmm ) This - according to the NEU advisory pay points puts me somewhere between M1 and M2. Interested to hear what other Teachers are earning?

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BarbaraofSeville · 07/01/2021 14:43

It has been a long held belief that teachers and nurses are universally very poorly paid and of course, the salaries of both are low for the responsibility and qualifications required.

However, in many areas of the country, where a lot of people are on under £20k, and are unable to get permanent full time work, teachers and nurses, on £25-30k or more, will be amongst the best paid people in the area.

So from that perspective, it's easy to see how teachers and nurses can be seen as being well paid by some.

dottiedodah · 07/01/2021 14:43

Do you have any idea what your contemporaries at School may be earning at all? Maybe the School cannot afford a pay rise .Maybe see is another School may be able to employ you on a slightly higher grade perhaps?

cabbagefordinner · 07/01/2021 14:45

I left teaching in England a number of years ago. I am now a primary classroom teacher in Western Australia in a state school on $110,000; that's 63,000 pounds, and no, all things considered, cost of living here isn't massively more expensive. Would never consider returning to teach in England.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 14:46

@coopekid that was based on my experience in inner London re family & friends. Most of them move up as scale every 1-2 yrs.

LaurieFairyCake · 07/01/2021 14:58

Dh is state secondary comp/London/Vice Principal (deputy head), 19 years teaching - £73k

Until he got over £50k he didn't earn more than minimum wage (as he did so many hours) Hmm

Almostslimjim · 07/01/2021 14:59

DH stopped teaching 5 years ago, he was earning ~£33k with a TLR. He earns over double that in the private sector now, and works far fewer hours and with considerably less stress!

Amijustagrump · 07/01/2021 15:00

M2 and in my second year (so RQT)

TeddyDidIt · 07/01/2021 15:20

@ThornAmongstRoses

My husband is a teacher - has been for about 12 years and is now part of the SLT (senior leadership team) and earns about £49k.
Snap!
Starllyow · 07/01/2021 15:33

I earn 50k, live in the NW and am a head of department in a secondary school. Been a teacher for 7 years.

NeurologicallySpeaking · 07/01/2021 15:39

Are you secondary or primary? For secondary that seems low to me after 5 years. Assume no TLR?

NeurologicallySpeaking · 07/01/2021 15:41

Also don't you have published pay scales in your school? I have worked in LEA, state academies and private and it has always been transparent. Move on- plenty of jobs for teachers about.

TeenyTinyDustinHoffman · 07/01/2021 15:45

@contrmary

So it's my 5th year of teaching, not in London or fringe, and I am on £27,260 and have been since Sep 19

Jesus, so you were on over 27K after 3 years or so of teaching? That's way more than I thought teachers earn. Will be interesting to see if others get that much too.

3 years of university, a PGCE and a few years of experience in an increasingly demanding job and you're surprised they're paid less than the national average?
Musmerian · 07/01/2021 15:56

£49k - 22 years of teaching. Not London. Independent school. 2k of that is for deputy Head of Dept responsibilities.

WhatWouldBuffyDo13 · 07/01/2021 16:02

@cabbagefordinner

I left teaching in England a number of years ago. I am now a primary classroom teacher in Western Australia in a state school on $110,000; that's 63,000 pounds, and no, all things considered, cost of living here isn't massively more expensive. Would never consider returning to teach in England.
DH earns the same in Victoria as a standard classroom teacher. We had looked at doing a year teacher exchange in the UK but the massive pay cut and increase in work load and hours just didn’t make it worth it. Shame. Would’ve been amazing.
Notnt · 07/01/2021 16:03

I'm in a college, very similar role to a tutor but not quite the same. I work part-time during term time only (no lesson prep, etc. required at home) and earn just over £25000 plus an annual bonus that varies, but I've only been there almost 2 years so still lower middle part of the payscale. A

spanieleyes · 07/01/2021 16:04

£52k as a primary Head.

Woodchiponthewall · 07/01/2021 16:09

I’m on £52,723 in Yorkshire. Head of a core faculty and have been since I was about 27(8ish years). I’ve gone up a few small increments on the leadership scale in that time but not much. I can’t go any further without getting a role on SLT. I have always felt very very well paid. Some people think all teachers earn £20k. As so many young teachers quit, anyone still in after a good few years should be earning a decent salary. When you consider the 13 weeks holiday and pension it’s a well paid job.

LaChatte · 07/01/2021 16:21

If it makes you feel any better, I've been a full time teacher in France for 12 years. I'm as high up as I can be and last year I earned £26000.

Teach234 · 07/01/2021 20:36

@sanityisamyth

After 12 years of teaching I was on £37k. I gave it up to retrain as a pharmacist.
How much more do you earn as a pharmacist if you don't mind saying?
LadyfromtheBelleEpoque · 07/01/2021 20:45

@Starllyow

What did you start on?

MissMarpleDarling · 07/01/2021 20:49

Teachers get paid more than I thought

Stripesnomore · 07/01/2021 21:02

It does look well paid.

What puts me off is that teachers on here seem to find it really stressful and work 60 hours a week. I also have friends that completed primary pgce and are stuck doing supply teaching.

I would be worried about doing the qualification and not being able to find a job.

Malbecfan · 07/01/2021 21:04

UPS3 but 0.5 p/t. I earn around £21k per year. No TLR or anything like that.

In my first job, they started me a point too low. I questioned it and was told it was correct. A year on, they asked me to teach something that I could only do due to my previous experience. They had to pay me the extra point and it was backdated.

OP, ask your union for advice. That's what you pay subs for.

solidaritea · 07/01/2021 21:11

@Woodchiponthewall

I’m on £52,723 in Yorkshire. Head of a core faculty and have been since I was about 27(8ish years). I’ve gone up a few small increments on the leadership scale in that time but not much. I can’t go any further without getting a role on SLT. I have always felt very very well paid. Some people think all teachers earn £20k. As so many young teachers quit, anyone still in after a good few years should be earning a decent salary. When you consider the 13 weeks holiday and pension it’s a well paid job.
Whether it is a decent salary very much depends on where you are in the country though. Outer London here, and on UPS. It isn't enough to buy property and won't be until I have a 60% deposit saved up. By which time I'd probably be retired...
BobbinThreadbare123 · 07/01/2021 21:11

It is stressful. 60 hrs is not an unusual week tbh. It's also very tiring being in full performance mode all day. You work very hard for the money. I would never go back to it - industry pays me more, it pays me for my overtime and I don't have to work till 11pm at night marking etc!