Teachers - how much do you earn?

[coopekid]

So it's my 5th year of teaching, not in London or fringe, and I am on £27,260 and have been since Sep 19 (no across-the-board pay increase as announced last summer for me ) This - according to the NEU advisory pay points puts me somewhere between M1 and M2. Interested to hear what other Teachers are earning?

Surely there's a tonne of official information available from unions and governing bodies which would be better to look at rather than asking on a forum where people may be in private / state, teaching different subjects and different age groups?

There's no point comparing yourself to a random sample of people which may have very little similarity to what you do.

So it's my 5th year of teaching, not in London or fringe, and I am on £27,260 and have been since Sep 19

Jesus, so you were on over 27K after 3 years or so of teaching? That's way more than I thought teachers earn. Will be interesting to see if others get that much too.

I stopped teaching ~5 years ago. In my 5th year of it I was on £35k (not London/Fringe). I did get a bump from working in an indie so my state peers would have been on more like £29/30k. Pay progression was scrapped quite some years ago, but LAs should still be putting out guidelines and most places still seem to . Academies don't have to follow those I suppose. OP, yours seems too low tbh. Start asking some questions. It's a bit insulting to expect a teacher to have a degree and a postgrad qual and have them on less than someone starting out on an industry grad scheme, five years in.

Currently at the top of the main pay scale (m6), not London/fringe. Salary is £36,961.

If you are on £27,000, in your 5th year I'd be speaking to the union. £27,600 is the set pay for M2, which would typically be someone in their second year of teaching.

HTH

My husband is a teacher - has been for about 12 years and is now part of the SLT (senior leadership team) and earns about £49k.

Outer London top of pay scale £41,000

My daughter in law is in her 2nd year of teaching here in Scotland. The starting salary for teachers here is £27500.

Following as I keep thinking of being a teacher....

DD is NQT, and on £32k

You can negotiate your own pay now as the scales aren't mandatory, although many schools still follow them. Which also means shook can get away with paying people less. My starting wage as an NQT 12 years ago (inner London though) was £26k. Whereabouts are you? What pay did you start on?

I'm technically UPS3 plus SEN allowance so on £43k. Not London/fringe.

Inner London primary in my 5th year
and I get £39,500.

Also thinking of becoming a teacher - are the figures quoted base salary? How does it work with additional responsibility payments etc?

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@AuntieMarys

DD is NQT, and on £32k

Wow that's a lot more than my NQT daughter got two years ago

Schools have the discretion to move you up or jump pay scale.

MPs/ups

MPS/UPS

I’m part time so receive 0.6 of the scale I’m on ☺️

@contramary you sound as though you think they are overpaid? When you break it down to an hourly rate (remembering that 9 of the 13 weeks hols are enforced unpaid leave) many are on less than NMW if you account for hours spent out of the classroom on prep / marking / other associated tasks.

@KatherineOfGaunt

You can negotiate your own pay now as the scales aren't mandatory, although many schools still follow them. Which also means shook can get away with paying people less. My starting wage as an NQT 12 years ago (inner London though) was £26k. Whereabouts are you? What pay did you start on?

I'm technically UPS3 plus SEN allowance so on £43k. Not London/fringe.

I'm in an LEA maintained school in Kent. I started off as an NQT in the same school back in 2016 on £22,244 . I have met my performance management targets every year and have seen gradual increases (apart from last academic year when my salary has remained the same). I know pay scales are used as a guide by schools and not definitive however I didn't think I would be below M2 after nearly 5 years in the classroom.

Well, what conversations have you had with your line manager about this, if any? What does your pay policy say? Schools don't have to give you a pay increase any more - you need to make a case for it using the pay policy. Or move job.

I am at the number of teaching colleagues I meet who have never looked at their organisation's pay policy.

@BobbinThreadbare123

I stopped teaching ~5 years ago. In my 5th year of it I was on £35k (not London/Fringe). I did get a bump from working in an indie so my state peers would have been on more like £29/30k. Pay progression was scrapped quite some years ago, but LAs should still be putting out guidelines and most places still seem to . Academies don't have to follow those I suppose. OP, yours seems too low tbh. Start asking some questions. It's a bit insulting to expect a teacher to have a degree and a postgrad qual and have them on less than someone starting out on an industry grad scheme, five years in.

Thanks @BobbinThreadbare123 I have queried this and asked for clarification on our school pay points. It is always hard asking the question as I do not find it is talked about enough in my school, will see what they come back to me with...

What has happened when you have discussed your belief (assuming you hild that belief) that you are making the appropriate contribution to school to support your moving up the pay scale? Have you been set targets?

48k here; top of pay scale and top TLR. Outside London

This is interesting as DH would like to be a teacher but I find the scales confusing to work out if we can afford it. Are holidays deducted from that salary? Are the extra roles such as subject lead in a primary given extra salary?

@Scarby9

What has happened when you have discussed your belief (assuming you hild that belief) that you are making the appropriate contribution to school to support your moving up the pay scale? Have you been set targets?

The performance management schedule for teachers in my school is that targets are reviewed and new ones set in November. Any pay increases awarded in December and pay back dated to the previous September. My line manager had signed off on my November review that I had exceeded national teaching standards.