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Capitol Hill and the next 2 weeks (Trump #118)

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Roussette · 07/01/2021 10:52

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4128051-Coup-on-Capitol-Hill-Trump-117

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BruceAndNosh · 07/01/2021 18:24

@Arobase

Trump supporters also marching on state legislatures, including Georgia.
I believe Kansas state Capitol was breached yesterday
AcrossthePond55 · 07/01/2021 18:25

Impeachment? Hmmm.

IIRC, the form and procedure an impeachment takes is up to the House. So I suppose that means they could do a 'super sonic', no witnesses, minimal debate time, and get it to a vote before the 20th. They certainly have the votes and the majority to get that done if they so choose. The optics of it, who knows? Does the House have the guts? Again, who knows?

In order to bar him from office, the Senate would have to have time to successfully vote to remove him from office. Again, I expect they could rush the vote without debate unless they need a supermajority to set procedures. I don't remember if it's a simple or super- majority to remove from office.

Roussette · 07/01/2021 18:25

I imagine her twitter account has been taken down. However there is footage of her ranting. Sorry that sounds mean to speak of the dead like that, but I can't think of another word

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BruceAndNosh · 07/01/2021 18:26

I know Twittter have suspended Trump (for ?24 hours, maybe longer) but what about the Trumplings? They all tweeted a mealy mouthed "violence is bad folks" last night but nada since.

Fredelliottisayfredelliott · 07/01/2021 18:27

Yes I've seen a couple of videos of her ranting. The whole thing is tragic. I just dont know why there is no information on the others who died of " medical emergencies ".

AcrossthePond55 · 07/01/2021 18:28

@Roussette

My personal opinion... I think he will be encouraged to resign or face 25th amendment. That's what happened to Nixon. He chose to resign as he had more principles than Trump
I think the only reason he made his two-faced statement today was because they were dangling the 25th paperwork under his nose saying "We've got enough signatures....so issue a statement or else".

He'll never resign. He's too afraid of what the future holds AND too fond of the power he now holds.

Mittens030869 · 07/01/2021 18:30

Quite clearly the 25th Amendment should be invoked against Trump or he should be impeached. But I would worry about that turning him into a martyr in the eyes of his fanatical followers, who won't be disappearing into the woodworking anytime soon.

I also don't really see it happening.

Mittens030869 · 07/01/2021 18:31

@AcrossthePond55 I think you're probably right. It didn't sound like something he would say unprompted. Trump doesn't do things in an 'orderly' way.

pleasefeedthecat · 07/01/2021 18:32

Please could someone explain if there is a mechanism that can be put in place to prevent him from running for President in four years time? Sad

dreamingbohemian · 07/01/2021 18:32

I agree he'll never resign

Igotjelly · 07/01/2021 18:33

I seem to think someone said one of the others tasered himself. Not sure if it's true.

This is all going to make a great Netflix documentary series!

Igotjelly · 07/01/2021 18:33

@pleasefeedthecat

Please could someone explain if there is a mechanism that can be put in place to prevent him from running for President in four years time? Sad
CNN were saying this would be the reason for impeachment as he couldn't run again.
Destinysdaughter · 07/01/2021 18:36

Igotjelly Ha I was thinking that too! Especially after watching The Death of Stalin over Xmas, which was hilarious.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/01/2021 18:37

Rats busy leaving the sinking sink.

Elaine Chao just resigned from Trump'cabinet.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/01/2021 18:37

*Trump's

NotaRealLawyer · 07/01/2021 18:38

Elaine Chao, Cabinet Secretary (married to Mitch McConnell) resigns.

nickymanchester · 07/01/2021 18:38

@DGRossetti

The official position in the UK is that experts aren't needed. It's official because the man that said it was elected while operating on that basis.

You're wrong about that. It is actually a quote from Michael Gove in an interview with Sky News on 3rd June 2016 and the actual quote is this when he was talking specifically about economists:-

"I think the people of this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong."

He was referring to people like Christine Lagarde who was then the head of the IMF and is now the head of the ECB who claimed that voting for Brexit (never mind implementing Brexit) would immediately result in the sky falling on our heads.

Another of these experts, Andy Haldane, the Chief Economist of the BoE, has admitted that they totally got things wrong about Brexit.

Now, of course, experts are needed to refute people coming up with absolute rubbish (the equivalent of saying 2+2=5).

But when economists (these are the experts he was referring to) start hypothesising that the sky will fall on our heads the day after we vote for Brexit or also back in 2008 were saying that property was a great investment (they were also saying the same thing back in 1990 just before that crash) then you do need to stop and consider just how much reliance should be placed on their forecasts as they are, more often than not, wrong.

In other words, you could toss a coin and get the right answer at least as often as these economic experts when they are asked to make a forecast.

NotaRealLawyer · 07/01/2021 18:39

Rats and sinking ship.
(Or last days in the bunker)

dreamingbohemian · 07/01/2021 18:39

We may see more cabinet resignations so they don't have to deal with invoking the 25th

In which case, it's impeachment

Igotjelly · 07/01/2021 18:45

Surely by now the nuclear football just has a bunch of crayons and a pacifier in it for when he throws a wobbly Hmm because if he wants to go full "scorched earth"....

SunniCameHomeWithAVengeance · 07/01/2021 18:47

I think Trump is hoping to be declared insane, don't forget theres a queue of criminal cases waiting for him.

lionheart · 07/01/2021 18:49

If she resigns she ducks the 25th.

Roussette · 07/01/2021 18:51

Elaine Chao doesn't want to be called upon to vote for removing Trump betcha.

No applause for this. She stood next to Trump literally when he gave that infamous speech calling white supremacists 'very fine people'

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minou123 · 07/01/2021 18:56

Biden is speaking live at the moment and has called the mob "domestic terrorists"

And Trump has contempt for democracy

DGRossetti · 07/01/2021 18:59

@SunniCameHomeWithAVengeance

I think Trump is hoping to be declared insane, don't forget theres a queue of criminal cases waiting for him.
Does the US have a presumption of a defence of insanity ?
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