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Coup on Capitol Hill (Trump#117)

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ZZTopGuitarSolo · 06/01/2021 20:46

The ongoing Trump saga.

Continuing from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4110252-May-Hope-and-History-Rhyme-Trump-116

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TurquoiseBaubles · 07/01/2021 01:52

This Nebraskan guy is great. In fact this "debate" is the best bit of US politics I've seen in a while.

ludothedog · 07/01/2021 01:54

It's way to easy to write Trump off as being mentally unwell. He almost certainly has an personality disorder but that does not mean he is mentally unwell.

He is just a bad man. It's ok to say that, he's a spoilt, mean nasty man who was never told no as a child.

TurquoiseBaubles · 07/01/2021 01:55

I'm not impressed by CNN giving screen time to the guy talking about the woman who was shot. I presume he wasn't an innocent cameraman and/or journalist if he was inside the building, he was one of the rioters and allowing him to come on and blame police for shooting into a crowd who are trying to force themselves through a door is not news Hmm

TurquoiseBaubles · 07/01/2021 01:56

I agree ludo - I want everyone to stop saying he's mentally ill; doing so gives him a wonderful excuse to avoid any future prosecution for anything, and will also be used as an excuse for family members/associates who should be prosecuted with him.

REignbow · 07/01/2021 01:57

I live in Asia. Went to sleep with one with some positive news from Georgia to riots and violence in Washington!

All I’ll say, if the BLM protestors had done the same thing, then more people would of died....

Has anyone watched ole tucker on fox? Wow, just wow.

minou123 · 07/01/2021 01:59

OK, im watching the BBC and there is "rumours" of invoking the 25th amendment and removing Trump.

AcrossthePond55 - have you heard this?

TheTangoTerrorIsTerrifying · 07/01/2021 02:01

@ludothedog

It's way to easy to write Trump off as being mentally unwell. He almost certainly has an personality disorder but that does not mean he is mentally unwell.

He is just a bad man. It's ok to say that, he's a spoilt, mean nasty man who was never told no as a child.

I think he is a nasty, vile, mean and morally bankrupt narcissist who also has a mental illness of some kind which has become progressively worse since he ran for office.
Furries · 07/01/2021 02:01

@TurquoiseBaubles

I'm not impressed by CNN giving screen time to the guy talking about the woman who was shot. I presume he wasn't an innocent cameraman and/or journalist if he was inside the building, he was one of the rioters and allowing him to come on and blame police for shooting into a crowd who are trying to force themselves through a door is not news Hmm
Agree, that made me really uncomfortable. Should not have been allowed. Am sure that will be called censorship, but it didn’t sit right with me. First he said he just saw “hands with guns”, then it switched to he wasn’t sure if it was police or private security uniforms.
ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 07/01/2021 02:01

Not just 25th what about treason? Outgoing president inciting domestic terrorism?

TheTangoTerrorIsTerrifying · 07/01/2021 02:04

@TurquoiseBaubles

I agree ludo - I want everyone to stop saying he's mentally ill; doing so gives him a wonderful excuse to avoid any future prosecution for anything, and will also be used as an excuse for family members/associates who should be prosecuted with him.
He will have every excuse under the sun anyway as to why he shouldn’t be prosecuted. Him and his family will stop at nothing and sink to every possible low. Plus he will have all of the money he has suckered from his extremist fan club to fight his way out of prosecution.
FUBARandSNAFU · 07/01/2021 02:09

PMK

Quaagars · 07/01/2021 02:17

His latest tweets have been deleted from what i can see - first time that has happened, he usually just gets a warning

cbt944 · 07/01/2021 02:18

@ludothedog

It's way to easy to write Trump off as being mentally unwell. He almost certainly has an personality disorder but that does not mean he is mentally unwell.

He is just a bad man. It's ok to say that, he's a spoilt, mean nasty man who was never told no as a child.

But personality disorders are defined, in fact, as mental illnesses. eg:

Personality disorders are a group of mental illnesses. They involve long-term patterns of thoughts and behaviours that are unhealthy and inflexible.

According to the ICD and DSM, both ways of classifying psychiatric conditions, personality disorders are considered to be mental disorders, and therefore mental illness.

Although onlookers and insiders can assume Trump has NPD or ASPD, we cannot make a definitive medical assessment. But colloquially speaking, he is clearly a narcissist and/or a sociopath, his ego is overblown and easily punctured, he is grandiose and exceedingly low if not out right lacking in empathy, and so on. He is not a well man!

Jails are full of sociopaths and narcissists, though, and it is not considered the sort of mental illness that would let Trump off the hook for his actions.

Willowkins · 07/01/2021 02:23

Can I join from the UK? It's been quite a day. I am watching the debate in the senate even though it's 2:20 in the morning here and I have a training course in 6 hours. It's gripping stuff and a bit emotional if I'm honest. I just hope they make a stand and do the right thing.

TurquoiseBaubles · 07/01/2021 02:26

This is a silly time of night to be up, but I can't pull myself away Blush

Is this just the first debate? Does anyone know what happens next? I'm presuming they go back in (house and senate together) and move on to the next state. I'm hopeful at that stage that the Republican nutters will have enough sense to leave it at that and just shut up.

PerkingFaintly · 07/01/2021 02:31

Many of us here in the UK. I'd promised myself an early night, an' all. Oh well.

Brew to keep awake, or sooth to sleep, as you each wish.

Doowninthedumps · 07/01/2021 02:33

Thank you @DeRigueurMortis I thought there was another one after that but it's late and things were moving very quickly at the time ha ha!

Willowkins · 07/01/2021 02:35

Just caught up with Sen. Hawley. Isn't he the one that started the objections to the vote? Can't help thinking Mitt Romney has given him a good talking to.

FUBARandSNAFU · 07/01/2021 02:39

This thread is flying. I'm only on pg 8, so apologies for popping in to the end. Just a quick question... Would the assault on the Capitol be a fed offense, and if so could Trump pardon them? I wouldn't have thought he would care to, but then I thought about him pardoning the Blackwater bastards, so could it be a possibility?

Also was realizing as Trump does love being first, isn't he the first president to openly support (and encourage) domestic terrorism?

TheTangoTerrorIsTerrifying · 07/01/2021 02:40

Reporter on CNN just said according to his sources the ‘president’ is ranting and raving and there are questions as to his mental state.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/01/2021 02:43

Hawley's being called out for greeting protestors with clenched fist salute

twitter.com/michaelsteele/status/1346935385780314115?s=21

Furries · 07/01/2021 02:44

@FUBARandSNAFU - just had to say that your username couldn’t be any more appropriate right now!

DeRigueurMortis · 07/01/2021 02:44

@TheTangoTerrorIsTerrifying

Reporter on CNN just said according to his sources the ‘president’ is ranting and raving and there are questions as to his mental state.

Usual day in the White House then...

minou123 · 07/01/2021 02:45

Yep. And Sen. Hawley did this on the way into Capital earlier today.

He is getting a pasting on twitter and some are asking for his resignation.

He really is a twit. He encouraged the mob on the way in. Yet, now he is thanking the police for protecting him and condemning the violence.

Coup on Capitol Hill (Trump#117)
BoreOfWhabylon · 07/01/2021 02:45

Must tear myself away and go to bed.

Here's a song for these strange times

m.youtube.com/watch?v=x-NXwRUQcmg&feature=youtu.be