So bloody cross with my Mum.

[mioz]

DM lives alone and has bubbled with my household. She came over yesterday for a cup of tea, all completely normal. She text me today to say she’s been for a COVID test as she’s had a sore throat for 3 days. I am absolutely fuming with her for putting my family at risk and for being so sneaky and not even mentioning it yesterday. How do I get past her behaviour ☹️

I've been in hospital with covid. My initial symptoms were headache , sore throat and loss of my voice . No cough and no temperature. Tested positive the next day . I don't know why you all think that sore throat is not one of the symptoms .

A sore throat is a symptom. I started off with a sore throat, and a few days later was incredibly ill and tested positive.

Haven't we all got over the fact that a lot of cases do not have the 3 main symptoms listed by the government? All of the posters saying sore throat isn't a symptom etc seem to have been living under a rock recently!!

[quote JamieLeesCurtains]@KatherineJaneway Thank you for that post - and frankly I'm envious. Such a postcode lottery. There's nothing like that where I live (England).[/quote]
@JamieLeesCurtains

In our area cases were constantly rising, even through the last lockdown. We were one of the areas given unlimited free testing, no symptoms required. Last week our rolling rate was over 1000 cases per 100,000. It has dropped a little in the last few days and, with the closure of schools, I think it will continue dropping.

@mioz I have no idea why you're getting you're backside handed to you! We're in the middle of a viral pandemic. Your mother has virus symptoms, enough to think it's Covid - that is absolutely the moment a person should stay in until they have a negative test. Even then, she's ill and you have the right to say 'I'd rather not catch your germs, hope you feel better soon'.

People have a weird idea of germs and how ok it is to spread them. People have to go to work unless absolutely on the floor with a cold, that doesn't mean you also have to keep social obligations. Hell, if one of my friends had cancelled one of our meet ups, I'd not have caught their cold and ended up with pneumonia a few years ago. That wasn't a typical result of catching someone's cold, but it was avoidable. Even on a small scale level, no one wants germs whilst pregnant and looking after a toddler - you can't even take Lemsip to feel somewhat human!

I would be cross too OP.
We know that a sore throat CAN be a symptom, but it ISN'T criteria for a Covid test.
Although we have community testing in my area, maybe that is what OP's mother has had.

@StickTheKettleOnAlice

I think your Mum should have told you and her behaviour was abit reckless. I bet you would have told her had shoe been on other foot. It was your choice whether to take the risk and not hers to make for you so YANBU.

This. Why are pp being arsey and telling the op to get a grip? This is a potentially fatal illness and the sooner people get this into their thick heads the better off we'll all be. New symptoms are being recognized all the time.

@JamieLeesCurtains

our school insisted on a test for DD when her symptoms didn't match the common ones, said she could not go back without one so I had to lie to get one

This really sums up our current Fool Britannia.

Was such a mess. I said I would just keep her isolated for 14 days if that would help. But no. even after 14 days isolation they said she could not go back without a negative test. I got a little sarcastic at that stage and asked if I kept her off a month would that be ok. But no, policy is apparently no returning, anytime before negative test?! She had a headache and said her tummy hurt a bit. I was keeping an eye out for temp/cough/etc. But it came across as a bit of an iffy tummy, which GP seemed to agree with when I tried talking to them (though did say 'it could be something else'..)

Meanwhile, DSD got a stomach bug which requires 48 hours off after last bout anyway, and her school rang us twice a DAY trying to pressure us to take her back! Said to ignore the 48 hour thing as its important she is in, which we didn't, and we were threatened with fines a few times that week also Even tried once saying send her in, and we will send her back if she vomits...

From the WHO:
"The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, dry cough, and tiredness. Other symptoms that are less common and may affect some patients include loss of taste or smell, aches and pains, headache, sore throat, nasal congestion, red eyes, diarrhoea, or a skin rash."

I really don't understand why that isn't on the NHS website that everyone is sent to. I linked it earlier and it STILL only mentions the three main symptoms. Which is why people like OP's mum don't realise they need a test until they've already been around people.

I'm in a support bubble with my friend and her husband and wouldn't even consider going to their house if I felt unwell in any way. She should have told you.

@kgal

Haven't we all got over the fact that a lot of cases do not have the 3 main symptoms listed by the government? All of the posters saying sore throat isn't a symptom etc seem to have been living under a rock recently!!

No, it's the government living under a rock for NOT allowing all people - not just some - to get a Covid test when they 'only' have a sore throat as a symptom.

I started a thread on here as I was bemused my DC had been sent home from nursery due to having a 'runny nose'. I thought that was so OTT, I even sent a sarky email to the receptionist. 2 months later when he got covid, guess what his first symptom was? A runny nose 🙈. I haven't been back yet, luckily they're closed for the next two weeks....so embarrassing..

So now your whole household needs to isolate, I don’t suppose your DM thought about that

This is why the virus is spreading!

Theres alot more info out there now and if anyone believes they can only be positive if they only have the top 3 symptoms then they clearly live under a rock !!!!!!

It’s kind of irrelevant whether a sore throat is a significant symptom or whether she should have got a test on that basis. The fact of the matter is that she thought she might have Covid and needed a test. She should have told you that and shouldn’t have gone round.

@SauvignonBlanche Only if her mother is positive

@Finfintytint

Sore throat isn’t usually a symptom. Has she tested positive?

It is actually. Mine started with a sore throat and the Zoe app will invite you to be tested if you report one.

Most of the people I know who have tested positive have mainly had cold symptoms. The symptom advice is woefully inadequate.

I don't understand some of the responses on here. I would be really cross too. Has she explained what prompted her to test today?

[quote CanWeHaveSnow]@SauvignonBlanche Only if her mother is positive[/quote]
Pending the result though.

In these times, I don't think you should visit anyone if you think there's a chance of you having Covid. Just because you are in a bubble with someone doesn't mean you have a good given right to spend time with them no matter what. Even people who live together sometimes distance as much as they can if one of them thinks they have it.

Sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, seizures, altered consciousness, diarrhoea, headaches, extreme tiredness, joint pain, nausea, nose bleed, vomiting, rash, muscle ache, loss of appetite, high temp or fever, new continuous cough and a change to your sense of smell or taste. A lot of people also report achey or sore eyes.

All considered symptoms but you need to have one or more of the 'top 3' to get access to a test.

@Aprilx

You agreed to bubble with her! This effectively means she counts as part of your household. You being angry with her is like being angry with your DH if he got a sore throat - which is not a covid symptom anyway.

Perhaps unbubble yourself if you are going to be like this towards your mother.

This. You don’t understand what bubbling means.

My first reaction would be to be worried for my mum - not to be angry with her.

I would be annoyed too, OP.

Honestly, selfish to be angry at her when you should be worried as above pp stated