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Pineapple on pizza is decent

‘force? No. But they should certainly have a say in the murder of their child. I've been through 1 full pregnancy and birth and am pregnant again and it's not something I enjoy, but I still think men should have a say in the lives of their children. Nature dictates that women carry and birth the child, why is that the mans fault’

It’s not the man’s fault, but biology means that the woman alone gets to decide what happens in regards to HER body, and HER uterus. Men can have a say when they are the ones gestating.

It’s not the man’s fault, but biology means that the woman alone gets to decide what happens in regards to HER body, and HER uterus. Men can have a say when they are the ones gestating

Exactly. Maybe that’s not fair but guess what? It’s hardly “fair” that it’s always the woman who has to bear the burden of pregnancy or deal with bleeding and cramps every month and any gynaecological problems that come with childbirth - life isn’t fcking fair for any of us in various ways.

[quote Mommabear20]@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows force? No. But they should certainly have a say in the murder of their child. I've been through 1 full pregnancy and birth and am pregnant again and it's not something I enjoy, but I still think men should have a say in the lives of their children. Nature dictates that women carry and birth the child, why is that the mans fault? [/quote]
No 'child' is being 'murdered'. Can we stop with the emotionally manipulative rhetoric.

A man has no say over a woman's body. What you are suggesting, is that a woman has less rights than a corpse (because consent is needed pre-death, or from the deceased relatives for organ donation) and that a woman gives up her human rights and then becomes a Forced Incubator. There is a reason that the UN classifies Forced Pregnancy/Forced Childbirth as a Human Rights Violation. You cannot FORCE another human being to risk their health in pregnancy and their life in childbirth. To do so strips her of her rights as a human being. The born, ACTUAL existing person's rights, not the non-sentient embryo or foetus.

Schools should stay open.

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

Those being snidey about feminists. They do the role modelling,the challenging that some others can’t be arsed to do. Y’all Happy to take the benefits though eg flexible working requests,equalities provision, and having woman speaking up.

I do all of that in the real world, yet I've been hectored on MN for not towing the exact line of keyboard feminists. Never mind, I'll stay in my box of promoting women, supporting them and making my own feminist choices regardless of what some internet feminist says.

1. Most NT children can be potty trained between 21 & 30m old, with effort & consistency.

1. There are people abusing the benefits system, and its sometimes possible where you know someone well, to identify that someone is in all likelihood abusing the system.

1. Mental health issues are very real but theres also more and more medicalisation of normal emotional responses to shit life situations.

That the answers to many questions, especially questions posed on AIBU, are often complicated.

Not the black and white "you're an angel" or "you're the devil" than many posters try to push.

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

Class and money are inextricably interlinked in england. Money being used to buy the perceived trappings of being middle class eg Schooling Property Multiple hobbies for yourself and the kids, inc matching joules wellies Carole Middleton is seen as having done really well. Married her gerls off well, fancy house,private school

They’re not linked at all, let alone inextricably. You might be able to buy the perceived trappings of a higher class but that’s not the same thing. Whatever you own, if you don’t know which cutlery to use, you’ll fool nobody and you’ll be judged. You might be able to buy a place at an excellent school, you can’t buy the intelligence to make the most of it.

[quote Mommabear20]@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows force? No. But they should certainly have a say in the murder of their child. I've been through 1 full pregnancy and birth and am pregnant again and it's not something I enjoy, but I still think men should have a say in the lives of their children. Nature dictates that women carry and birth the child, why is that the mans fault? [/quote]
Also, lets take your stance to it's full, logical conclusion. If the father wants her to 'murder her child' as you ignorantly put it, and she wants to keep it, who gets the say? So, you're saying he has a right to FORCE her to 'murder her child'? Then what? Who gets the final say? What you are proposing is not only absolutely abhorrent for human rights, followed to it's logical conclusion, you are saying men have the right to force women to have an abortion if they don't want to. I am guessing you didn't stop to think about that one....

Ultimately, when he has to go through; 9 months+ loss of income, severe nausea, backache, weight gain, high blood pressure, fluid on the organs, phlebitis, pre-eclampsia; and risk his life in childbirth, ONLY THEN does he get a say. Only then. Plain, clear and simple.

No one is asking anyone to stay in any box. Just don’t be snidey about feminist as if it’s got nothing to do with you or your life
Things we take for granted was a fought for right that someone else previously deemed a privilege

There are people abusing the benefits system, and its sometimes possible where you know someone well, to identify that someone is in all likelihood abusing the system.

Fraud makes up just 2% of the welfare budget, it is not as widespread as people seem to think.

you don’t know which cutlery to use, you’ll fool nobody and you’ll be judged.
I agree with this and it supports what I’m saying the English are class obsessed whether you're one of them Or the right sort and one may buy and/or assume the affectations but chances are you’ll not be accepted

A woman's place is in the home, a mans is to provide for his family. (My view for my family, absolutely not expecting everyone to agree, my BF and I differ great on this one 😂)

Men and women are not equal. Each have natural abilities and should be celebrated not competed.

Religion is the cause of all wars.

IVF should not be on the NHS.

The adoption process should be made easier and the positives of adoption talked about more.

Prisoners should have to work, and work that benefits the country/ community.

National service should be reintroduced in replace of education between 16-18, not deployed to fight but trained in a skill by the army, navy etc. Cooking, mechanics, etc so that everyone has a life skill to fall back on rather than a useless a level.

Basic house keeping and childcare should be taught in secondary school.

You are either a male or female, this is assigned at birth, you can choose to live as the other, but nature can't be changed.

Children being over weight is child abuse, if you want to be unhealthy, feel free but your child's health should be a priority not your lack of effort.

Being nice costs nothing!

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and to express them, but not force them on others or judge others because of theirs.

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

No one is asking anyone to stay in any box. Just don’t be snidey about feminist as if it’s got nothing to do with you or your life Things we take for granted was a fought for right that someone else previously deemed a privilege

I don't think this comment is relevant to what PPs (including me) were saying.

[quote missmouse101]@grassisjeweled, how smug and fucking simplistic. Do you think it's a choice that people make, to be overweight? Really awful comment.

Spelling, punctuation and grammar do matter. Having errors pointed out is helpful. [/quote]
I disagree with you that people should have their spelling mistakes pointed out unless they are writing for publication or to teach others.
But I haven’t sworn at you because I disagree with you.

"But they should certainly have a say in the murder of their child"

Abortion isn't murder you lunatic. Back to the 1950's with you.

How did you get together with someone diametrically opposed to your trad family values? Couldn’t you meet a nice caveman?@Mommabear20

Children being over weight is child abuse

My child is overweight due to his disability. I also have a child who is underweight due to a different facet of the same disability. You know the sum total of Jack shit about children you see out and about.

Children are overrated and most people have them for entirely selfish reasons.

And everyone gets judged for their opinions. If you hold abhorrent ones then you should absolutely expect to be judged accordingly.

Yes
But here’s the rub,those in possession of abhorrent views often think they’re plain speakers, or upholding traditional values

@Cokie3 no I'm not saying that. But on the flip side of what you've said, a woman can get an abortion without the fathers consent. My point is, pregnancy is complex given that 2 party's are involved in the creation of life and 2 are responsible for the child after its born but men are completely shut out and ignored during the pregnancy. I completely understand that the woman is the one that has to go through the pregnancy and birth but it's not fair for the father to be completely without any say in his child. Men shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to get an abortion but at the same time women shouldn't leave men with no choice if they (the women) wanted to abort.

A woman's place is in the home, a mans is to provide for his family.

I despair. I cannot believe anyone thinks like that in 2021. It's absolutely disgusting. Also, there are far far too many children needing to be adopted, and many age out of the system because people who are supposedly 'pro-life' (I use commas because Pro Incubatorial Servitude is not pro-life, and pro-lifers care nought for the mother's life) only want perfect babies, no babies with disabilities or older children. Adoption in many cases also causes far more heartache than it solves imo and is not a solution. In fact, there shouldn't be any children waiting to be adopted, so we can plainly see this people who advocate it never practice what they preach.

Women are not Incubators or Broodmares for someone else. To suggest they are is deeply insulting.

"I say it like it is" is usually code for "I'm a massive cunt with massively cuntish views".

But if the women gets to decide as it's her body, what is your point?
The woman gets to decide everytime.