AIBU to think that the majority of people on here are middle class and high earners?

[Kaylasmum49]

Just curious.

The 'what do you earn' and 'how much do you have in savings' and 'how many ovens do you have?' type threads are just so crass and vile, and bring out the worst kind of people. (Snobs and fantasists!) Why the F would anyone start a thread like this?

They must be so insecure with such low self esteem, to want to start a thread like this making shit up bragging about their 'wealth.'

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens, and want to know how best to invest £75K they have spare, and who claim to make savings of £3K a month, make me laugh. In real life, these people don't exist.

Of course they exist and some of those people are on this forum. Stop being so bitter and jealous.

I'm not a high earner at all minimum wage more like but our joint income is £95k.

Why would anyone want to come on here and pretend to be something they aren't? Maybe I'm just naive.

Some people play 2nd Life, some people pretend to be an upper middle class SAHM tied to her aga in the Home Counties after giving up her highly paid City job to marry and have 5 children and 2 muddy labs on a sprawling property whilst husband spends the week in the City earning £350k. Money's so tight, how on earth can we afford our chalet and 5 x school fees?

Whatever works, right?

This is the internet so people can be whatever they like.

Interestingly though, I've never known a website to be as obsessed with class as Mumsnet is.

It's always been the same and it's always puzzled me.

@Lily193

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens, and want to know how best to invest £75K they have spare, and who claim to make savings of £3K a month, make me laugh. In real life, these people don't exist.

Of course they exist and some of those people are on this forum. Stop being so bitter and jealous.

😂😂😂

Love it. Nice one Lily. That did make me laugh.

Why is there so much disbelief at anyone claiming to be a high earner? Why must it be that they are liars and fantasists? It’s a very bizarre attitude from mners towards high earners.
It should be applauded and encouraged that people share their stories with others and give good advice so others can follow too.

@PicsInRed

Why would anyone want to come on here and pretend to be something they aren't? Maybe I'm just naive.

Some people play 2nd Life, some people pretend to be an upper middle class SAHM tied to her aga in the Home Counties after giving up her highly paid City job to marry and have 5 children and 2 muddy labs on a sprawling property whilst husband spends the week in the City earning £350k. Money's so tight, how on earth can we afford our chalet and 5 x school fees?

Whatever works, right?

😂

Yep, that sums up many posters on here, and their fantasy lives.

I used to think this.
Then I met a load of mumsnetters in real life and they all had totally normal working class and lower middle class jobs.
I don't know if they're all just really quiet when the posh Mums are talking about earnings/schools/holidays/savings etc...
Or if they're cheerfully joining in with descriptions of their own fantasy lives

@sst1234

Why is there so much disbelief at anyone claiming to be a high earner? Why must it be that they are liars and fantasists? It’s a very bizarre attitude from mners towards high earners. It should be applauded and encouraged that people share their stories with others and give good advice so others can follow too.

😂😂😂

Look at the institute of fiscal studies website
www.ifs.org.uk/tools_and_resources/where_do_you_fit_in

It is not the finest tool but gives an approximation of what your income is compared to the rest of the country. What I despair of is people on 100k saying they are not high earners. I appreciate housing in the SE and other parts is ridiculously overpriced and actually overpriced pretty much everywhere but most people will never earn 100k or even close to it.

We are in top 10%, we had a few years being in top 5% but I retired early due to ill health when in my forties.

DH closest friends are people he met at Cambridge when reading for his PhD so they all have very well paid jobs. My friendship group consists of many academic librarians, I was one for 25 years they earn less than his friendship group but still decent money.

I studied income disparity and education attainment many years ago so read around that subject a lot. There will always be outliers, though social mobility still exists it’s even harder these days.

My siblings remain poor on NMW, I was the only one to attend University. It opened up a whole new world. Not everyone who gains a degree ends up in a well paid job though.

I'm middle class but a low earner.

Some people play 2nd Life, some people pretend to be an upper middle class SAHM tied to her aga in the Home Counties after giving up her highly paid City job to marry and have 5 children and 2 muddy labs on a sprawling property whilst husband spends the week in the City earning £350k. Money's so tight, how on earth can we afford our chalet and 5 x school fees?

Fuck, that sounds nice.

All my creativity gets poured into creating a fantasy CV which I pull out and peruse wistfully on many a dark night **.

I may have to have a rethink going forward. 😈

It’s the sheer number of them. And the fact that they “simply can’t imagine” that anybody earns less than £500k a year. Oh, and the unlikely details like the five ovens and houses in every continent.

I earn well (not £500k a year ), but I’m well aware that plenty of people earn less than me. It’s the “I’m a billionaire, isn’t very one (tinkly laugh)” that reads as fake fakey fake.

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens.

Do these count if they're contained within the same Aga, or do they have to be separate?

@Lily193

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens, and want to know how best to invest £75K they have spare, and who claim to make savings of £3K a month, make me laugh. In real life, these people don't exist.

Of course they exist and some of those people are on this forum. Stop being so bitter and jealous.

Like they'd turn to a parenting website to ask how best to invest £75K 🙄🙄

Perhaps you should stop being so naive?

Why is there so much disbelief at anyone claiming to be a high earner? Why must it be that they are liars and fantasists? It’s a very bizarre attitude from mners towards high earners.
It should be applauded and encouraged that people share their stories with others and give good advice so others can follow too.

I completely agree with you.

I’m working class, and I seem to have it in my head that any mumsnetter I have a disagreement with or clash with is a smug middle class person. Maybe because the types of threads I get annoyed on are to do with things like child maintenance and apparently £500 being a pittance or people on benefits shouldn’t have mobile phones 🤷🏼‍♀️ So I can pretty much work out who is on the same planet as me and who isn’t by what they say.

@WorraLiberty

This is the internet so people can be whatever they like.

Interestingly though, I've never known a website to be as obsessed with class as Mumsnet is.

It's always been the same and it's always puzzled me.

Quite.

I find it amusing when people here claim to be working class on the grounds their grandad was a coal miner, even though they themselves are a university lecturer married to a consultant, have 2 cars and a 5 bedroom detached house with room for a pony.

I'm classless, me. Just myself. Not on the breadline, but not a member of the Bullingdon Set.

@sunshineandshowers21

or like to pretend they are...

I'm

What's the point of pretending on an anonymous forum where only you know who you actually are?

Is this actually a thing?

@Changechangychange

It’s the sheer number of them. And the fact that they “simply can’t imagine” that anybody earns less than £500k a year. Oh, and the unlikely details like the five ovens and houses in every continent.

I earn well (not £500k a year ), but I’m well aware that plenty of people earn less than me. It’s the “I’m a billionaire, isn’t very one (tinkly laugh)” that reads as fake fakey fake.

Yeah this. ^ The snobbery and condescending attitude from these wannabe rich-folk is just grim. As I say, the threads they start 'bragging' about their so-called wealth are just nasty.

I personally think that what you earn shouldn't define you. But my general feeling on here is that a lot of the higher earners/middle class people really look down on the lower earners. There was a thread on here recently about how someone would hate to be a "supermarket worker" as if that was an embarrassing job to do. Unfortunately in my job I see that attitude too often from more middle class people towards me. They look at me like I'm worthless.

WorraLiberty Who's being naive? The point I was making is that there are people who save in excess of 3k every month and have 75k spare to invest and those people are on this forum.Why is that so hard to believe?

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens.

Do these count if they're contained within the same Aga, or do they have to be separate?

5 agas is such a useful feature for all that weekend entertaining.

I was seeing a man for a while who was from a very working class background, left school at 16, was in the army for four years and at the age of 25 was a builder earning more than twice my salary (in a job that I could only do after paying the thick end of 10k for a masters qualification)
I don't really know what that proves but it's food for thought!