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AIBU to think that the majority of people on here are middle class and high earners?

393 replies

Kaylasmum49 · 01/01/2021 13:51

Just curious.

OP posts:
MillieEpple · 01/01/2021 16:33

I find the feminist discourse about the trials of combining work and motherhood is dominated by professionals with london salaries with bigger employers. There also seems to be a real lack of husbands that are in trades or do manual work compared to the men in my life.
A lot of the other areas seem more varied to me and people with all different life experiences postml.

EileenGC · 01/01/2021 16:33

I think some people lie.

I'm working class and thanks to Covid and being in part-time education, my 2020 earnings (including stipend allowances) have been just under £10k.

I was given a middle class education. I'm not from the UK and still sometimes struggle to understand the class system so it's all a bit blurry for me really. Once I finish all my training, I'll be able to land a £90k job within a couple of months. So I guess I'm a potential high earner. What class will that make me?

Whattheactual20201 · 01/01/2021 16:35

The amount of people who call you a liar if you earn over 100k on here amazes me !

Mumofsend · 01/01/2021 16:36

I'm not. I'm an unemployed but reliant on benefits.

I think generally mumsnet is quite highly educated more than money

SingingWaffleDoggy · 01/01/2021 16:37

We are exactly (51% to be precise) middle earners according to the link earlier on in the thread, and I would say that this fairly reflects how I feel about our current situation.
I have a professional job that requires university education, but work part time to balance childcare. My husband works a job that requires no qualifications but is weighted heavily in favour of experience and earns more than I do, and his promotion prospects are better.
We get by, the bills get paid with a little left over for unexpected expenses and a couple of weekends away (I wish!) in the uk a year. However, we need a new car so that’s going to be a struggle.
To look at us, we live in a lovely property in a much sought after village location with a couple of nice cars on the drive, so probably appear better off than we are.
What I’m getting at, is that the picture portrayed isn’t always representative of the true circumstances. And that’s not even touching on the whole class issue!
For what it’s worth, I see us as working class but I do have an aga so I’m not sure if that rules me out Wink

Sh05 · 01/01/2021 16:37

Joint income of less than 35k. A family of teachers and social workers so no.

SandyY2K · 01/01/2021 16:41

@Msvestibule

But I suppose if you consider a combined income of £40k as a high income (which it isn't - statistically, it's below average), then yes, most posters will look like high earners to you.

Totally agree with this. I don't consider myself a high earners, but my own individual salary is more than £40k....so I tend to think high is a lot more than mine.

IMO until I can spend as like, I probably will never see my salary as high tbh.

CakeRequired · 01/01/2021 16:41

The people who've got 4 or 5 ovens, and want to know how best to invest £75K they have spare, and who claim to make savings of £3K a month, make me laugh. In real life, these people don't exist.

I don't even know why they think this even sounds possible. If you actually had that amount of money to invest, why wouldn't you speak to a financial advisor in person, or at least post on a financial forum. Why mumsnet? Grin

I take it with a pinch of salt. I'm sure some are telling the truth, but some claim that they earn 150k, only ever work 9-5, have an easy commute, 3 exceptionally well behaved and intelligent children, loads of savings, holidays all the time etc. It never quite adds up.

Whattheactual20201 · 01/01/2021 16:49

@CakeRequired

Funny you say that I to earn over 150k have 3 wonderful children ( bias obviously ) we have holidays I wouldn’t say like a huge amount of holidays but at least one a year. I save, nearly mortgage free in London
I have a rather modest life though. I’m very frugal and that’s just who I am as a person. We don’t have 5 ovens etc we have a modest 3 bedroom house ( London )
I have an easy commute mainly like day to day but sometimes I have to travel out of country etc
I am also not 30 yet.
I hate the fact that even in real life people assume I must have hand outs from somewhere or in debt which neither is true.

Christmasfairy2020 · 01/01/2021 16:56

I earn 31555 husband earns 18000. So combined just under 50k I save 420 a month and husband 100 ish. We are by no means high earners!!

XingMing · 01/01/2021 17:13

I waste a lot of time on MN, and am fairly middle class, but I am over 60 and more or less retired. I worked a lot, and was well-paid until I had one child, at 44, after which I worked PT, with the help of a nanny so I could continue to travel for my freelance business. DH is still running the small company he started 30 years ago, and hoping to wind down this year. So we're relatively well-off, which is to say we have one quite nice house bought 30 years ago (that we wouldn't be able to afford at today's prices) rather than two, and holidays, and can meet university living expenses for our child. Income in line with the occupations a PP suggested: head teacher, GP, successful tradesmen, vet, middle ranked forces/police, or small town accountant or lawyer. It's a secure life, but worlds away from a plutocratic fantasy. We were fortunate, and we have been sensible.

ssd · 01/01/2021 17:14

On mn it isn't enough to go to uni,it needs to be a red brick uni

Daphnise · 01/01/2021 17:16

I don't know about being high earners- it's disposable income that counts- and middle class- well if the rather skewed pro EU views (and intolerance of any other views on the matter) seen in MN are true, then yes.

Madbengalmum · 01/01/2021 17:17

I don’t think £100k is a particularly high earner is it? There are lots of households that earn nearer £200k combined.

m0therofdragons · 01/01/2021 17:17

A large number claim to be on 100k to the point I think every person earning 100k in the country is on mn!

PortiasPlumUpduffedPudding · 01/01/2021 17:18

Well I think a lot of posters are spouting bullshit and fantasy.

PortiasPlumUpduffedPudding · 01/01/2021 17:19

Funny these high earners are on here all day every day, must be skiving I spose

Butchyrestingface · 01/01/2021 17:20

@Madbengalmum

I don’t think £100k is a particularly high earner is it? There are lots of households that earn nearer £200k combined.
You're right. It's a derisory amount. I've been known to give the taxi driver £100k in tips just to get change from a £500k note.
ZaraW · 01/01/2021 17:22

YABU there are so many people on here who are dying to prove how "middle class" they are and look down on other people's choices. It just makes them look small minded.

Thankfully I know very few people like this in real life.

Madbengalmum · 01/01/2021 17:22

Why is everybody a bullshitter? A professional couple could quite easily earn 100k between them, and a smaller percentage earn £200k plus. I am not really sure why people would feel the need ?

Madbengalmum · 01/01/2021 17:25

Butchyresting, nobody is saying it is derisory, i think there are more people than you think that earn a good wage. Go up to the next tier and i would imagine there are far fewer.

Lobsterquadrille2 · 01/01/2021 17:26

I tend to believe that people on MN are telling the truth. I am always surprised when threads I am following are taken down so that MN can look behind the scenes ...

I'm middle class and a moderate earner but a very high saver. One DD, never any maintenance and our household income has always just been mine, so I really learned to budget and save seriously, to give me something to fall back on in case I lost my job. I had DD overseas so no maternity pay or welfare state, or family. So maybe not typical but not unusual. I disagree with posters who say "tell your parents - they'll always be there for you" - mine didn't speak to me for six years because I was a single parent, which is surely the epitome of middle class ...

PortiasPlumUpduffedPudding · 01/01/2021 17:27

Why does anyone need to tell the internet how much they earn
Nobody cares

Universallyhappy · 01/01/2021 17:28

Explains why people always think I don’t exist

m0therofdragons · 01/01/2021 17:30

Joint income of less than 35k. A family of teachers and social workers so no.

As a newly qualified teacher, you’ll begin on a salary of at least £25,714 and social worker starts at £24,000 both with annual increments so how are you on £35k? Part time?

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