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To think step-children get a hugely bad deal

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w0rkout · 28/12/2020 14:12

My thread is being deleted. This thread is hopefully a place to talk about how rubbish it is being a step child.

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w0rkout · 28/12/2020 19:37

@Youseethethingis

Why couldn’t this thread have just been left as a ranting zone for adult step children instead of a bun fight? We have that on the step parents board now and it’s great.
Because our opinions don't seem to matter!
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blackcat86 · 28/12/2020 19:37

I am SM to a 16yr old DSS and I also have a DD (2). My observation is that its the bio parents that are commonly the issue and that often that damage would happen whether they were together or not (aside from if a parent dies - so not separating by choice). Its just easier to blame the family set up or SP. DSS will say things like 'my mother has been perfect and has never done a thing wrong' (all very weird in itself because it's not the sort of thing that just pops up in conversation) but apparently I'm horrible because we chose to have DD and that has made DSS feel displaced. Well perhaps he would feel less displaced if his mum didn't slag me and my child off all the time. It does feel like a matter of perception where he chooses or perhaps likes to view his sister as a golden child where in reality she nearly died being born and had a horrible first year of her life. I also have to work so she has long days in childcare whilst his mum was able to stay home until he was well into school age. No one seems to help DSS to see how much love and benefit he is surrounded with even DH who feeds the guilt. Just the negatives, breeding this victim mentality that is damaging his MH. I agree that the impact on the child is rarely seen. Adults are too busy point scoring with each other. If my marriage broke down I would remain single by choice.

Nnkk · 28/12/2020 19:38

But it is. I’m the parent. You have made it about me.

You’re rude and nasty and if your last thread was deleted that should have been a bloody clue that it wasn’t a good idea.

w0rkout · 28/12/2020 19:38

@Nnkk

The op chose where to post this so that’s on her. She chose AIBU.

And she is. Very.

You've completely misunderstood my posts and have taken then personally. That's your problem, not mine.
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Nnkk · 28/12/2020 19:39

You’ve made a list that is 95% about me.

How am I to take that?

w0rkout · 28/12/2020 19:40

@Nnkk

But it is. I’m the parent. You have made it about me.

You’re rude and nasty and if your last thread was deleted that should have been a bloody clue that it wasn’t a good idea.

It was deleted for being a TAAT.

You should probably calm down

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LouJ85 · 28/12/2020 19:40

@LouJ85

Would you have framed it positively if DP's kids arrived and said "oh my god, I got twice as many presents at mum's house"??

They're not ungrateful entitled brats, luckily, so they didn't say this. They thanked their dad and I gratefully for their gifts.

And I might add that, by the same token, my daughter wouldn't dream of turning up at her dad's at Christmas and openly saying "oh my god I get so much more at my mum's". Both sets of children thankfully have more manners, gratitude and social etiquette than that!

Icenii · 28/12/2020 19:40

Well to answer your question, you and other posters may have had a bad deal, but no, step children in general don't get a hugely bad deal.

w0rkout · 28/12/2020 19:40

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excelledyourself · 28/12/2020 19:43

@LouJ85

But your daughter is clearly comparing who is giving what. It's just that dad doesn't know what is being said behind his back.

Nnkk · 28/12/2020 19:43

What’s the point of your thread then?

You’ve been really nasty and dismissive of me.

I did my best for my children.

I can’t control my ex he is a cunt. That’s why I left.

He is a cunt and he picked a cunt. And the court made me send my children.

I did EVERYTHING to stop it and I lost.

What part should I have done? Since what I did according to you is so shit for my children, what should i have done?

Tell me please.

CrackALack · 28/12/2020 19:43

I've also said my step mum pushed me out and my step dad was emotionally abusive

Your step parents aren't the reason for anything on the list you gave though? They really aren't.

That is being the child of divorced parents. If your step parents then also treated you poorly, it is ultimately the fault of your parents again for staying.

But I'm still not buying that all of the shit you listed is solely because you were a step child. It's absolute bollocks. It's because your parents lived separately whether they went on to have future relationships or not.

It's not about you

And it's not about step parents either. It's about separated parents.

dontdisturbmenow · 28/12/2020 19:44

Again you're ignoring the other child in the situation though aren't you? Why is that?
What other child? This about step children and their experience resulting from going from one family to another. Children of one household don't have these issues. They might have other issues, but not that one.

Nnkk · 28/12/2020 19:44

@CrackALack

I've also said my step mum pushed me out and my step dad was emotionally abusive

Your step parents aren't the reason for anything on the list you gave though? They really aren't.

That is being the child of divorced parents. If your step parents then also treated you poorly, it is ultimately the fault of your parents again for staying.

But I'm still not buying that all of the shit you listed is solely because you were a step child. It's absolute bollocks. It's because your parents lived separately whether they went on to have future relationships or not.

It's not about you

And it's not about step parents either. It's about separated parents.

100% this.

My kids had to do all that and I never had a partner. And my ex didn’t live with his now wife right away and they still had to do the list.

The premise of the list is a lie.

The issue is that the op thinks ya made ya bed and should stay no matter what.

CrackALack · 28/12/2020 19:46

Because our opinions don't seem to matter!

I absolutely think your opinion matters. But I think you have massively conflated two separate issues, being the fact your parents divorced and the fact you had a step parent.

Most of the problems you listed have nothing to do with being a step child but are instead about being a child of divorced parents.

If you want to make a thread about the hardships you experienced at the hands of bad step parents then fine, but at least make sure you're not projecting an entirely different problem onto something that's irrelevant.

Bollss · 28/12/2020 19:46

@dontdisturbmenow

Again you're ignoring the other child in the situation though aren't you? Why is that? What other child? This about step children and their experience resulting from going from one family to another. Children of one household don't have these issues. They might have other issues, but not that one.
So you only care about the step child and don't give a fuck about the effect it might have on any other resident children, then?

What a fucking surprise that is!

The issues presented in this thread have nothing to do with being a step child, and everything to do with being a child of separated parents. Two very different things. If you're going to preach is best to know what it is you're supposed to be preaching about.

Dusty9729 · 28/12/2020 19:46

It’s not bad for everyone but it can be. My partner treats DS as his own. However, his dads partner doesn’t well give a poop about him and DS has no relationship with his younger siblings from that side. Even when he sees his dad he doesn’t see his dads partner and their children. They just go out and about!

Icenii · 28/12/2020 19:46

Going to one house to another is not a stepchild issue. It may be experieced by stepchildren and none stepchildren.

BaublesToIt · 28/12/2020 19:47

I agree being a stepchild is shit. I was one with both a stepfather who literally became ‘Dad’ overnight and a stepmother who I never met (nor did I see my father again for over 30 years) as she wanted my father for her children.

I agree that the shitness was all down to my parents though. They should have put the children they already had first, made sure they chose new partners who would accept and have affection for their children and not created situations where their children were neglected and felt rejected or left out. They also should have considered the impact that additional children would have on their existing children.

If I hadn’t had the experiences I had as a child, I probably would have divorced DH long ago. We ‘fell out of love’, argued a lot, that was in the midst of the stress of raising 4 kids though. I swore they would never have a stranger living with them, feeling on eggshells in their own home, not being comfortable to be themselves, not feeling like a complete family etc. I was also worried that DH might swan off to a new family and forget about our DC like my Dad did and I couldn’t risk that. So we stayed together with lots of downs but some ups too! Now I’m very glad we did, DC are older, our relationship has a 2nd wind and we’re very happy.

If we ever did split up though, I would never inflict a stepfather on my DC. I might have boyfriends who certainly wouldn’t be living with us and even a new husband when DC have all left home. My DCs well-being is more important than my love life.

Funnily enough, my ‘stepsister’ praises my father as being a great stepfather to her and adores him Hmm.

TheFormerPorpentiaScamander · 28/12/2020 19:48

@dontdisturbmenow

For most it has nothing to do at all about the number of presents they receive. If they do, they are just spoilt.

What does matter is the message behind the lesser number of gifts. It's when the message is, because you get more at mum's, you are not as important to US. If you lived here and was part of OUR family, you'd get as much but because you have the misfortune to live more days at your mother, you are not as important.

That's the message the kid gets out of it. It hurts and to avoid the pain, you detach yourself which creates the vicious circle that many step families fall into, almost a war of who emotionally detached themselves further.

This is the message my dc took from their half/step siblings getting more presents from their DF and SM. They didn't matter as much. It wasn't just to do with presents though. It was also things like "we won't see you next week because we are going on a family holiday" when DC asked why they weren't included they were told they didn't need to go as they got holidays with me and it wasn't fair if they had more holidays. In actual fact I wasn't taking them away as I couldn't afford it. And even if I were they wanted to spend time with their father. But he refuses to see that. Ex and his wife are happier to label me as the bitch that turned his dc against him, and the dc as "little shits" Sad
LouJ85 · 28/12/2020 19:49

[quote excelledyourself]@LouJ85

But your daughter is clearly comparing who is giving what. It's just that dad doesn't know what is being said behind his back. [/quote]

Which is where the social etiquette and manners come in. She knows the difference between saying something to me that won't hurt or offend her dad because he can't hear it. And DP's kids might well have commented to their mum that they got more at hers - that's fine. But neither set of kids would be openly ungrateful to the buying parent about what they have received. And neither feels less loved either - I know this because of how my daughter talks about her dad. She absolutely worships the ground he walks on. I doubt she'd feel that way if she felt "less important" or "less loved" by him. So while she can have a concept of quantity of gifts, she doesn't allow that to determine her own value or the extent to which her father loves her. To her, these things are defined by the time and effort he makes with her and always has done. Not his bank balance and how many presents he can afford.

CrackALack · 28/12/2020 19:51

Different clothes all children living between separated parents have separate clothes
Different meal times I'd expect most children living between separated parents will have slightly different meal times
Different snack allowances again, I'd expect this applies to most children living between separated parents
Different levels of freedom as above
Different expectation around phone/gaming use as above
Different town all children living between separated parents live in different places, it may be 5 mins down the road or the next town over
Different friends/no friends because only there EOW not a step parent problem, lots of children of divorced parents see their dads EOW whether or not he has a partner
No dance/gymnastics/etc because away EOW as above
Christmas without father every year same for lots of children with divorced parents regardless as to who has a new partner
Never just saying 'mum and dad' applies to all children of divorced parents
Having step and half siblings
Feeling guilty for loving full siblings more
Never really relaxing at dad's because only there EOW same for lots of children of divorced parents regardless as to whether they have a partner.

Your problem is with the fact your parents separated and you had to live between two homes. That is a valid issue. It's one I'm sure lots of children struggle with when their parents divorced. But none of that is a step parenting issue and none of it is solely experienced by step children.

CrackALack · 28/12/2020 19:53

And if your step mother treated you badly, pushed you out etc... Then I'm sorry for that. By all means share that experience. But you cannot pass the blame for all of the above onto the fact you were a step child and had step parents.

Nnkk · 28/12/2020 19:54

@CrackALack

And if your step mother treated you badly, pushed you out etc... Then I'm sorry for that. By all means share that experience. But you cannot pass the blame for all of the above onto the fact you were a step child and had step parents.
This.

And you can’t also expect parents in abusive relationships, or who have simply fallen out of love, to suck it up and stay because they made children together.

w0rkout · 28/12/2020 19:55

@CrackALack

Different clothes all children living between separated parents have separate clothes Different meal times I'd expect most children living between separated parents will have slightly different meal times Different snack allowances again, I'd expect this applies to most children living between separated parents Different levels of freedom as above Different expectation around phone/gaming use as above Different town all children living between separated parents live in different places, it may be 5 mins down the road or the next town over Different friends/no friends because only there EOW not a step parent problem, lots of children of divorced parents see their dads EOW whether or not he has a partner No dance/gymnastics/etc because away EOW as above Christmas without father every year same for lots of children with divorced parents regardless as to who has a new partner Never just saying 'mum and dad' applies to all children of divorced parents Having step and half siblings Feeling guilty for loving full siblings more Never really relaxing at dad's because only there EOW same for lots of children of divorced parents regardless as to whether they have a partner.

Your problem is with the fact your parents separated and you had to live between two homes. That is a valid issue. It's one I'm sure lots of children struggle with when their parents divorced. But none of that is a step parenting issue and none of it is solely experienced by step children.

Ok. Then 'children of divorced parents have a hugely bad deal, plus step parents sometimes don't help'

Is that better

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