To feel relieved that it’s not a no-deal outcome!

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Whether you’re Remain or Leave the fact is that Brexit is going ahead. I was genuinely scared of a no-deal outcome especially after the weird 2020 we have had.

I don’t know the full details of the deal but I’m just glad that there is a deal rather than no-deal at all. Anyone else feel the same?

Brexit: Boris Johnson hails free trade deal with EU

At least that’s something. I was worried about trading under WTO rules.

Thoughts?

They're already pretending they werent panicking like fuck and regretting all this brexit shit about 2 weeks ago. Brexiters forget other people have memories.

@user1471565182

They're already pretending they werent panicking like fuck and regretting all this brexit shit about 2 weeks ago. Brexiters forget other people have memories.

So what? It's done now and doesn't look too bad.

So the DM have the positives here.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9088079/So-does-deal-mean-you.html

Food prices might rise
Increased bureucracy
Green card for driving
Potential empty shelves

Still......control and all that....

The threat of no deal was used to manipulate us into thinking this 'not dreadful but nothing to be proud of' deal is a win. It's not, there are far more losses than wins, but it's better than food and medication shortages.

Michael Gove states that the deal means we can start levelling up. There was nothing to stop them doing that before, or even better, not creating such inequality in the first place.

Poor Europe not being able to get British TV!

Compared to no deal, its a win, yes. Time will tell if it benefits us economically.

It's done now and doesn't look too bad.

A perfect example. Brexit has already cost the country billions, but the new trade agreement 'doesn't look too bad'. That's how low our expectations have become.

It’s more popularise propoganda. We’ve lost so much and gained nothing. There is nothing about the deal that is in any way better than what we had.
It’s a con to keep the hard of thought appeased and aligned.

I'm so pleased. Would have much preferred to stay in the EU but this is better than no deal.

By hook or by crook Johnson had, in the end to get a deal. The hold ups at Dover although supposedly not Brexit related just revealed the horror of what could happen. The government knew that Johnson definitely and probably the Tories would be finished for years when the proverbial hit the fan. All this talk about trading like Australia was dealt a blow when the ex Australian PM warned us on Question Time that it was not a good move and full of frustrations.

Compared to no deal, its a win, yes.

Set the bar low enough and anything looks like “a win”.

Please can all the “Johnson is so clever, amazing deal, so pleased”, people help me understand what specifically we have gained that we didn’t have as an EU member?
Not it could have been worse, but what benefits I can now expect to see?

It's not that we all think it's an amazing deal. But we were really worried that we would end up with no deal, which would have made the chaos around Dover of the last few days a permanent reality and been a complete fiasco in every way.

It's pointless comparing it to what we had when we were in the EU. Because sadly, that ship has sailed away, at least in the short to medium term.

I voted remain. But it's pointless to focus anymore on what we've lost, at least for now. Hopefully in the long-term we'll have the chance to rejoin the EU. In the meantime, IMO, we've definitely dodged a bullet in not crashing out without a deal.

@SabrinaThwaite

Compared to no deal, its a win, yes.

Set the bar low enough and anything looks like “a win”.

Well, quite. But it is absolutely a win compared to No Deal.

France and Germany have been strengthened but so has the size of their annual bill. There are even fewer net EU contributors now. The UK income will be sorely missed. There are so many nations in the EU with their hand permanently out. Good luck to the likes of France and Germany paying their bills. At least we won’t be paying those bills any more. We can start investing in our own economy instead of relying on cheap labour flows. For too long our economy has relied on cheap EU labour topped up by tax credits. We need to start investing in our own infrastructure, our own industries. The other thing we can start doing is collecting proper taxes from big Multi Nationals. This argument over the likes of Starbucks, Amazon etc won’t be one we have to keep having. If they want to operate in the UK they will have to start paying proper taxes instead of domiciling UK trade in Ireland or Luxembourg. That is one example of how Brexit will pay off.

You think the current govt are interested in paying workers well & collecting tax from multinationals?

Is the EU interested in collecting taxes from multinationals? The EU allows a system where the likes of Ireland and Luxembourg set their Corporation Tax levels artificially low in order to attract huge amounts of tax income which has been “earned” across the rest of the EU. When you buy something on Amazon in the UK it is sold to you from Luxembourg. Fair? No it isn’t.

@HainaultViaNewburyPark

Better a deal than no deal. But it won’t be anywhere near as good as being an EU member (obviously). And I’m still sad and angry about Brexit. I certainly won’t be forgiving or forgetting.

Agreed

Perhaps Nigel Farage and Guy Verhofstadt will disappear into thin air.
People hoping that Scotland will 'gain independence' can fly off as well.
They're usually not Scottish either.

We need to start investing in our own infrastructure, our own industries.

Being in the EU stopped us from doing that how?

Oh yes, I remember now, we “invested” by the UK Government selling off the majority of our infrastructure to overseas companies.

@derxa

Perhaps Nigel Farage and Guy Verhofstadt will disappear into thin air. People hoping that Scotland will 'gain independence' can fly off as well. They're usually not Scottish either.

God forbid any country would want to gain control of its own laws, tax systems and be free to set its own rules on how to compete in the world....

God forbid any country would want to gain control of its own laws, tax systems and be free to set its own rules on how to compete in the world....

Let's try the Darien Scheme again.

Not hoping that Scotland will gain independence. But Brexit makes it very hard to argue that they don’t have the right to be sovereign.

@Devilishpyjamas

Not hoping that Scotland will gain independence. But Brexit makes it very hard to argue that they don’t have the right to be sovereign.

I've always wondered how the same people who argue that the UK should leave the EU to regain sovereignty have an issue with Scotland wanting the same thing.

It's cognitive dissonance.

@Devilishpyjamas

Not hoping that Scotland will gain independence. But Brexit makes it very hard to argue that they don’t have the right to be sovereign.

Brexit shows that the whole thing is insanity.