To feel relieved that it’s not a no-deal outcome!

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Whether you’re Remain or Leave the fact is that Brexit is going ahead. I was genuinely scared of a no-deal outcome especially after the weird 2020 we have had.

I don’t know the full details of the deal but I’m just glad that there is a deal rather than no-deal at all. Anyone else feel the same?

Brexit: Boris Johnson hails free trade deal with EU

At least that’s something. I was worried about trading under WTO rules.

Thoughts?

It's very easy to see how false information was amplified.

But yes - we lost.

And people are going to realise in little ways but in lots of little ways exactly what they have lost.

It will be interesting to see what is gained and if people's lives do improve as they want.

So if there is no automatic recognition of qualifications for medicine, architects and other professions, please Brexiteers tell me how that is a good thing?

Imbeciles googling “David Cameron, EU, Veto”. 😂

Study EU politics to degree level and then come and have a chat. The headline in the Daily Rag means nothing if you have no idea that they were throwing him a bone. Stop wasting my time in the interim.

And as for Europol. There was nothing to check as his records hadn’t been updated. Some general advice was given to the police to check records before allowing entry. As an EU citizen he was waved through no questions asked. That will likely change post-Brexit. You have no proof that this will continue. I know you are bitter but you really do have to get over it. We will not rejoin the EU in your lifetime. Just let it go.

Get.

Over.

It.

😂😂😂😂

And of course if you want to bring up the Alice Gross murder - one of the Coroner’s recommendations to prevent future deaths was that the UK didn’t lose access to Europol.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Gross-2016-0488.pdf

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/25/pms-brexit-deal-makes-uk-safer-priti-patel-insists

So a slow 👏👏👏 to the Brexiteers.

@TerryHearn

Imbeciles googling “David Cameron, EU, Veto”. 😂

Study EU politics to degree level and then come and have a chat. The headline in the Daily Rag means nothing if you have no idea that they were throwing him a bone. Stop wasting my time in the interim.

And as for Europol. There was nothing to check as his records hadn’t been updated. Some general advice was given to the police to check records before allowing entry. As an EU citizen he was waved through no questions asked. That will likely change post-Brexit. You have no proof that this will continue. I know you are bitter but you really do have to get over it. We will not rejoin the EU in your lifetime. Just let it go.

Get.

Over.

It.

😂😂😂😂

Oh, I’m sorry. Obviously I need to bow to your superior knowledge. Despite the facts.

How’s your maths going?

And what about all that UK infrastructure that we could have invested in under state aid rules (actually would have been encouraged to do so) but instead flogged it off?

You’re very quiet on these things

@SabrinaThwaite

And of course if you want to bring up the Alice Gross murder - one of the Coroner’s recommendations to prevent future deaths was that the UK didn’t lose access to Europol.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Gross-2016-0488.pdf

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/25/pms-brexit-deal-makes-uk-safer-priti-patel-insists

So a slow 👏👏👏 to the Brexiteers.

Read point 4 of your own first link.

🤣🤣🤣

Truly shameful to post that link and not see the rubbish that you are presenting as your own argument. Pitiful stuff. Child-like in fact.

Maths?

I’ll be back on the 29th December. See you next Tuesday.

Loving the “get over it” and emojis.

Such reasoned argument, worthy of any politics student.

As an EU citizen he was waved through no questions asked

How do you think this will change post Brexit?

EU citizens go through passport control and have their passports checked at the moment.

What do you think they are checking on the passports?

When an EU citizen comes through post Brexit, their passports will be checked.

How will this check be different to the current check?

@TerryHearn

Maths?

I’ll be back on the 29th December. See you next Tuesday.

Are you sure on that?

I’m sorry, maybe I needed to specifically point you at Item 6 of the matters of concern?

Oh, and even my teen thinks you’re lame with your “see you next Tuesday” comment.

If you can’t debate without calling someone a cunt then you’ve lost the argument.

@chomalungma

I don’t think our “friend” will be back

Why? I said I will be back on the 29th. I’m working the next 2 days. Some of us have to work over Christmas.

Sure.

How’s that maths coming along?

Happy to quote this again from page 9... (knowing you have read it and ignored it)
Term of phrase “half of”. Never heard it? “Half of Britain has gone on holiday to the South Coast this year due to Covid....”Would you literally think someone is arguing that 30 million plus people have travelled to the South of England for their hollibobs? No. Grow up.

I am still intrigued to see what @TerryHearn thinks happens at UK passport control when anyone from a foreign country goes through it.

What do passport checks actually do?

EU and non EU citizens go through passport checks. We have maybe been a bit lax in the past with people with EU passports - but we do have border controls seeing as we aren't in Schengen.

Last time I came back from Europe, I definitely remember having my passport checked going into France and when leaving to return to the UK. Yet we weren't checked when travelling within the rest of the EU and neither were we checked going into Norway. Schengen again.

We have always had control of our borders.
Just as we have always had control of our passport colour.

Sure. Because that’s a convenient excuse when pulled up on jingoistic rhetoric.

Now, since you’re a maths freak (or maybe not as a self-defined “politics student”), about your 58. 42. comment ...

We have always had control of our borders.

Yes, this has baffled me. I can't count the number of times I have been through passport control coming into the UK. But it's perfectly possible to go to France and have your passport checked there on entry but then onto Belgium, Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and only get stopped at the Russian border. I know having done this in the recent past.

Oh, and on the your point about UK infrastructure investment - surely as a “politics student” you can enlighten us about how the EU held us back and made us flog it off to the highest international bidder?

But I forget: going from Sweden to Norway, a customs person with a sniffer dog got on the train - he wasn't the slightest bit interested in our passports, just what goods (or illicit drugs) we were importing.

Listening quietly Of course I do, I was replying to: *If we had left on WTO terms, then we would have had any country which we didn't have a trade deal with would have had to pay tariffs on anything they imported to the UK.

So how is that fair to other countries?*

chomalungma Pretty much all economists agree that tariff free trade benefits a country regardless of reciprocation.

I've always had my passport checked when travelling from one EU country to another

@SabrinaThwaite

Sure. Because that’s a convenient excuse when pulled up on jingoistic rhetoric.

Now, since you’re a maths freak (or maybe not as a self-defined “politics student”), about your 58. 42. comment ...

I think Terry has in mind these figures

whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/?removed