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OH refusing Xmas plan change

304 replies

lamby12 · 21/12/2020 22:57

I think OH is being selfish and childish - is he?

We were always going to have Xmas day at our house, for one reason or another we've never been at home or not having major renovations etc so we said since last year we'd have this Xmas at home and host for my parents, his parents and any other family. We have a 2yo.

MIL & FIL decided last month they wouldn't be coming. They are boderline vulnerable and have been shielding throughout. My grandma would usually be with relatives aboard (she alternates each year) but she's in the equation with us this year due to restrictions. She's not bothered about Covid, says she might not be around much longer anyway (she's been saying that for 10+ years).

So it's now us, my parents and grandma on Xmas day (3 households) nobody's done much prep re food and we're taking it all very relaxed this year due to the uncertainty.

My mum suggested yesterday they'd feel more comfortable re grandma if we came to them as their house is considerably bigger with lots more socialising space, so more scope to naturally distance. She also knows OH is working flat out up to Xmas as a key worker, we haven't done any food shopping yet, we're tight on money and I'm knackered from being on my own with a toddler all the time. So all that combined she is trying to be helpful and relieve any pressure of us hosting.

I said great idea. OH flew off the handle, poking holes in the science of whether more space is safer, being argumentative about it, calling them stupid for suggesting it (all this just said to me). Acting like they're doing something malicious 'I've been looking forward to Xmas at home and they throw this in at the last minute' type ranting.

Saying he's not going?!? The decision hasn't even been made it was just discussion, not expected to be heated discussion.

I don't know if their science about space is right but if it makes them feel more comfortable who cares? They do everything for us. They are also offering to host coming from a nice place. Oh and I'm pregnant, so I'm bloody knackered and would love to not cook etc.

Should add, we're at home just us Boxing Day and I've offered to cook mini Xmas dinner #2 with OHs fave bits, so that will be our day at home if that's what he wants.

His reaction was so angry and nasty about my parents I told him he's a selfish and needs to take a long hard look at himself. All he ever gives a damn about is what he wants to do. Normally we all just go along with his preference but why should we? He's no reasons other than he'd prefer it. Who the hell at this time of Covid suggests NOT coming to Xmas day because of what house were at. Who cares?

AIBU to tell him he's a selfish ?

OP posts:
Kalula · 22/12/2020 09:19

Great idea means her mind is made up

Um, no. Saying great idea does NOT, even remotely, suggest her mind is made up. Not even remotely.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/12/2020 09:20

If she is in England and not in Tier 4, I think you are still allowed to mix 3 households but only on Christmas Day

Nowaynothappening · 22/12/2020 09:20

Your Mum is clearly trying to help you out and her plan makes total sense given your circumstances atm. Tell your DH to get a grip.

SleepingStandingUp · 22/12/2020 09:21

@Fbtw

She said great idea.

What she should have said was let me talk to oh and come back to you.

You think she's not entitled to an opinion without asking her husband? Or just one always present a United front - agree on all opinions in private so that one is never seen to disagree with the man?
Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:21

Here’s this great idea. Mum says we can all come to her for Christmas. Me and her talked about it and our house is so much smaller than theirs and we don’t have the money for Christmas lunch so let’s just all go there. Great idea.

Yeah. She doesn’t have her mind made up. As if.

Kalula · 22/12/2020 09:21

@ScatteredMama82 Re-read the post. Nowhere does the OP say she accepted the change of plans. She tried to talk to OH first, and he refused to even discuss it.

Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:22

@SleepingStandingUp I wouldn’t say anything about a change of plans. I’d say I’ll talk to himself and let you know.

And he would do exactly the same, so it’s not a gender thing. I wouldn’t give any hint of one way or another and nor would he, until we had discussed it between us m

CottonSock · 22/12/2020 09:23

What a nice offer of your mum and dad to do all the work. No words about your dh.

tootesuite · 22/12/2020 09:23

@turnitonagain

Kalula calm down - we’ve all read the OP and have interpreted it slightly differently. We also have no clue how she said it to DH but she sounds keen on the idea.
A bit patronising, I totally agree with @Kalula, OP said it was supposed to be a discussion. You and others have gone off on a tangent, like the DH.
Kalula · 22/12/2020 09:23

@Fbtw

Here’s this great idea. Mum says we can all come to her for Christmas. Me and her talked about it and our house is so much smaller than theirs and we don’t have the money for Christmas lunch so let’s just all go there. Great idea.

Yeah. She doesn’t have her mind made up. As if.

So now you are creating a narrative that doesn't even exist? Again, saying great idea let me discuss it with OH does not mean she accepted it, or made her mind up.
Kalula · 22/12/2020 09:25

[quote Fbtw]@SleepingStandingUp I wouldn’t say anything about a change of plans. I’d say I’ll talk to himself and let you know.

And he would do exactly the same, so it’s not a gender thing. I wouldn’t give any hint of one way or another and nor would he, until we had discussed it between us m[/quote]
Which is exactly what she said, and you are still attacking her.

Thewinterofdiscontent · 22/12/2020 09:25

@Kalula

You should have discussed the changed with him and not just presented him with a fait accompli.

She TRIED TO DISCUSS IT WITH HIM!

She DIDN'T present it as a fait accompli. She didn't accept their offer, she wanted to TALK TO HER OH FIRST!

Clearly there was already a plan that he thought they were happy with.

And then her mums suggestion yesterday which states they would be more comfortable if they hosted. It’s fair enough having a discussion when things aren’t decided but changing existing plans is bound to be fraught.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/12/2020 09:26

To be fair @Fbtw it does sound like a great idea! They don’t have the space, the money and OP would be doing everything otherwise.

What do you think about the OP’s phrase ‘we normally go along with his preference’?

ScatteredMama82 · 22/12/2020 09:26

The vitriol towards men on here astounds me at times. There are clearly 2 sides to this story, and the vast majority are only interested in the wife's side. @Kalula show me where it says she tried to talk to OH first?

To be honest it sounds to me like they are both being selfish twats. Refusing to see the other persons perspective. Time would be better spent communicating with each other rather than name-calling and coming onto Mumsnet for back-up from the 'anti-DH' crew.

Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:26

I read it differently @Kalula. And until the op comes back to clarify there’s no way either of us will know.

I’m telling you that he knows that her parents look down on him. It’s clear from what she posted. And he wanted to host Christmas.

Definitely he needs to pull his weight, with the grunt work of Christmas, but I would be pissed off if I was having to go to my in laws and be surrounded by them out of my own home at such short notice. I wouldn’t go.

tootesuite · 22/12/2020 09:28

@ScatteredMama82 OP says it was supposed to be a 'discussion' but he flew off the handle. Sad that women still normalise male aggression.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/12/2020 09:28

@Fbtw how many people do you think have had to change their plans because of COVID this year, especially at short notice.

Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:28

It depends of that means Christmas or not in this context. @ineedaholidaynow.

They definitely need to learn to communicate better.

My house is small. I don’t have much money. I still host Christmas because I want to take a turn and it’s a pride thing. The op and her parents are subtly doing their house down, their money down, and that stings. The op won’t see it the same, because it’s her parents, but her partner will see it, I guarantee.

Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:29

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@Fbtw how many people do you think have had to change their plans because of COVID this year, especially at short notice.[/quote]
They’d already changed their plans coz his parents aren’t coming.

This change is just because her parents have a bigger house and are richer. Which is feck all to do with Covid.

TorringtonDean · 22/12/2020 09:29

Does anyone read the news? Why are you meeting others indoors? Even in tiers 1, 2 or 3 you should keep it very short and local. Is it worth the risk to your family at all?

Kalula · 22/12/2020 09:31

@ScatteredMama82

The vitriol towards men on here astounds me at times. There are clearly 2 sides to this story, and the vast majority are only interested in the wife's side. *@Kalula* show me where it says she tried to talk to OH first? To be honest it sounds to me like they are both being selfish twats. Refusing to see the other persons perspective. Time would be better spent communicating with each other rather than name-calling and coming onto Mumsnet for back-up from the 'anti-DH' crew.
It seems you are coming at this from a pro-man/anti-woman stance. Re-read OP's post. She tried to discuss it and seems didn't even get to explain her point of view as he just started shouting her down.

That's the problem, OP tried to communicate with her OH, and you and a few others are ignoring that she tried. He refused to listen.

CatholicKidston · 22/12/2020 09:33

I can see why he'd annoyed but he shouldn't have spoken to you like that.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/12/2020 09:34

If they have a bigger space that is advisable @Fbtw. The fun Christmases where you seat 20 people round a table meant for 6 would be the worst thing you could do this year. And the DH was arguing against this science

timeforawine · 22/12/2020 09:34

@katy1213

You go - and leave him to do whatever he wants. You'll probably have a better time without him!
This ^ Sod him, he can go without
Fbtw · 22/12/2020 09:37

@ineedaholidaynow but it clearly didn’t bother them a week or two ago when the house sizes haven’t changed and nor has the social distancing message.

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