Fed up of threads trying to justify breaking restrictions

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So sick of all these threads of its ok if I just.... if we al just.... this is all just going to go on and on. Is it really going to be the end of the world if presents are delivered a bit late if you don't see someone for another few weeks... I've had a really bad year with a very sick child and dm butI have stuck to guidelines I'm no saint and I'm sure I've slipped up at some point. I'm just sick of people thinking their situation warrants breaking the rules.

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

Thank you .

Just to clarify, when I say suicidal I mean actually suicidal and not just feeling a bit down and fed up. I have suffered from mental health problems from a young age and also have autism. The thought of seeing my parents for a few days over Christmas was the only thing stopping me from jumping off a bridge and now that has been snatched away...well we will continue with our plans as normal. I have stuck to the rules all bloody year at great cost. So I don't care about people who judge me.

But your situation isn't the same at all.

You have genuine need.

It's all the other 'no-one's telling ME what to do' posters that are the problem.

Have a lovely Christmas

I'm really fed up of seeing all the " what about me ?" threads.
The rules are clear.. theyre on the government website and the daily updates were clear.
I don't get the misunderstandings.
If you're in a Tier, adhere to that Tier.
The trouble is that the government said 'should.'
They should have made it mandatory.

Firstly sorry for not posting this under the correct topic I have slapped my wrist.

And sorry if this is yet another thread on this subject.

Oh and the poster who suggests I polish my halo its super shiny ta! Please get a life and think how hard it is having a seriously sick dc.

Yes MH important my own isn't great but I have to keep going no other option right now.

But there are lots of people trying to justify why their tweak of the rules will be OK.

I 'bent' the rules today, I took my best friends daughter to visit her in the crematorium. She died suddenly just over a year ago...

Her fiancee has decided that moving someone into her house less than a year after she died is ok.., he's a good man but weak and it is very hard for her 14 yr old DD...

It has been so hard to not see her during lockdowns, my DD is her best friend and is autistic- not great at supporting her friend virtually but when they are together they just relax..

So I was not twisting the rules for no reason, it's a judgement call but I had to take her to see her mum today.

Everyone needs to stop judging and just focus upon their own life's.

@Sunshinedrops85

I agree 100%.

All covid has show me is how selfish some people really are. Who gives a eff about anyone else as long as you can get your holiday or photos for instagram?

It's shown me that an awful lot of people cannot see beyond their own circumstances and viewpoint. People on here have explained their reasons for wanting (or needing) to see people this Christmas that aren't simply to get holiday photos for instagram.

I have every sympathy in the world for those who are at breaking point and need to see someone. I think they absolutely should allow themselves to break the rules occasionally.

The problem is, those are not the people breaking the rules, in my experience. The rule-breakers are the ones saying "Oh, but I really want to see my sister, I need to see her; FaceTime isn't the same", or "But I always see those friends at Christmas; none of us have been anywhere except work and shopping and visiting our parents for a whole week now". They're making it worse for those who are genuinely suffering.

@5lilducks

I totally agree with you OP. Its really annoying seeing people trying to interpret rules to their advantage. Threads like my brother/sister has a newborn baby and they live about a hours drive away,but can I go and hold the baby while the child's mum cooks and has a shower (whilst the dad is wfh) and call it a support bubble for childcare!

This is allowed within the rules. Single parents AND couples with a child under the age of 1 can form a support bubble. Women are vulnerable after giving birth and support is vital even if that support is just a chat and a cup of tea. They can also change support bubble if they wait 10 days between bubbles.

The vast majority of transmission happens where people are following the rules. Schools, workplaces, within families. Take some time to understand this, rather than assuming that all cases are due to rule breaking

Exactly.

Calling bereaved siblings who want to get through Christmas together “selfish” because they’re “willing to be part of a chain of transmission that could result in the deaths of others” is pathetic. If you send your kid to school, if you do any number of things which are totally within the rules you are willing to be part of such a chain.

I’m a rule follower but cannot stand the sanctimony of threads like this. Most people are at very low risk of the virus yet have sacrificed a great deal to keep numbers down. They’re not “selfish” because they’ve had enough 9 months in.

Its literally not a law. It's a guideline. Boris does not know his arse from his elbow

Have you thought about applying to become a Corvid Marshall OP?

Some people are complete arseholes on here.

@shas19

Its literally not a law. It's a guideline. Boris does not know his arse from his elbow

This every fucking day! He is complete twat who will definitely be sat with the mother law & granny Xmas day not giving a flying fuck about any of us.

Idiots who think that rules don't apply to them remind me of these morons who smugly go for a swim in shark infected waters then end up sobbing and pleading for help when they actually get bitten.

You can't argue with stupid, you really can't. They will be the first to demand help though.

@HitthatroadJack

Idiots who think that rules don't apply to them remind me of these morons who smugly go for a swim in shark infected waters then end up sobbing and pleading for help when they actually get bitten.

You can't argue with stupid, you really can't. They will be the first to demand help though.

Interesting post. Who on this thread is stupid though?

I was in the middle of typing a really long comment, but not sure I have the energy to argue with arseholes tonight. All I'll say is that bubbles are there for a reason, they're not a joke, and I'm seeing too many people on MN assume that people are rule-breaking when actually they have no idea of the current guidelines and no clue of what people's personal circumstances are. There would be no need to say "oh not you, you're clearly one of the good ones" if you didn't assume that everyone in a bubble was being selfish just for a laugh in the first place.

Also - on Mumsnet I have yet to see one thread talking about actual rule breaking. What I have seen LOTS of is people posting questions to clarify if their situation is within the rules; most of the time they are, but that doesn't stop tons of people coming on to call them all sorts of names and spread completely false information.

Also - on Mumsnet I have yet to see one thread talking about actual rule breaking.

There’s a thread running right now about someone who held a street party with their neighbours in tier 3.

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire I think we both know the answer to that. I would imagine it's a low EQ and IQ.

I haven’t noticed that. Seems to be some of both extremes.

[quote Nikhedonia]@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire I think we both know the answer to that. I would imagine it's a low EQ and IQ.

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Who not what.

I'm worried about people's mental health and loneliness in all of this and it's not black and white.

However, there are some people who genuinely don't give a shit.

I have an aunt in her mid 70s who's had cancer twice and although she wasn't shielding, in the past she's made a big deal about having to be careful around bugs and germs.

Pre Covid she'd nip out occasionally.
Now, she sees the pandemic as a green light to go out as often as she can! she's at several supermarkets and shops a day browsing, chatting to everyone with her mask pulled down, inviting friends round to her house with children who are supposed to be in self isolation and visiting everybody she can find.

She tells me that Covid is a bully and you just need to stand up to it.

Even when my son had Covid she wanted to come over.
She laughs at me, along with her partner for being a "snowflake" by not going into her house (we are tier 3! With high cases) yet had I gone to hers with the kids as she wanted, when we didn't know one was incubating Covid, then guess what? We'd have Brought C19 into her home.

She's reckless. Says she's had her life and so what if she catches it? I see a few posts like this, but what about the poor nurses and doctors dealing with this, or the paramedics who might end up rushing her to hospital?

There are lots of genuinely vulnerable people out there, but there are lots of self centred, kamakazee individuals too. If they don't care, that's their outlook, but when it means cases are spiralling and my child has already had 40 days at home since Sept in GCSE years and caught Covid because selfish parents are still sending in kids who've tested positive (or have positive family members) then I don't think that's OK at all.

@FreshFreesias

Have you thought about applying to become a Corvid Marshall OP?

Not again. Not big and not clever.

As I've mentioned on a different thread, I have 2 households in my 'support bubble' which isn't allowed. My 98 Yr old great grandmother who relies on me to go round and bring her dinners, clean up etc, and my dad who has recently had a stroke and is unable to fully look after himself properly, so I help with his cooking, cleaning and shopping etc. I'll be seeing BOTH of them over Christmas as the alternative would be to leave one neglected as the 'rules' state. I will continue to see them both and help them however I can, and if people complain they need to stop being so sanctimonious, as not everything is so black and white.