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Fed up of threads trying to justify breaking restrictions

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nicknamehelp · 21/12/2020 16:59

So sick of all these threads of its ok if I just.... if we al just.... this is all just going to go on and on. Is it really going to be the end of the world if presents are delivered a bit late if you don't see someone for another few weeks... I've had a really bad year with a very sick child and dm butI have stuck to guidelines I'm no saint and I'm sure I've slipped up at some point. I'm just sick of people thinking their situation warrants breaking the rules.

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trappedsincesundaymorn · 21/12/2020 18:42

[quote TibetanTerrier]@trappedsincesundaymorn
Depends really. Me and my siblings lost both parents this year, are we selfish for wanting to try and get through our first Christmas without them, by being together for 1 day?

If you're prepared to take the chance of becoming part of a Covid chain that might cause the deaths of other people's parents then Yes, you are selfish. This is hopefully the only time this century that we will be given a challenge to show what we are made of - and sadly what's showing is that many Brits are not made of very much.[/quote]
So what you're saying is "suck it up your grief is not important". Guess what? I'm not prepared to do that anymore, it's been 7 months of "restricted grieving" and I don't have the strength to do it anymore.

Orf1abc · 21/12/2020 18:43

*Yes support bubbles are allowed"

But this isn’t what this thread is about.

It is:

*Me too. So many I wants, so very selfish."

The sudden rise in “bubbles” too when they weren’t being used before or ones miles away.

People need to stop judging other's circumstances.

Bence69 · 21/12/2020 18:43

Jesus what a thread! People are so fucking judgemental it’s unreal. Worry about yourself not what every other Tom dick & Harry are doing.

Hercwasonasnowball · 21/12/2020 18:47

The main place it is spreading is schools. This is legally allowed, are we attacking people for that?

I genuinely think we will see a dip in cases over the Christmas period as the number of potential contacts for each person will be much lower. Especially with other workplaces like factories shut.

OhWhyNot · 21/12/2020 18:48

And the rules have changed Orf1abc

We are aware of the changes we have no doubt slipped up at times but majority have tried to work within the rules

There are many who have decided and telling others that they are not gong to follow the rules as they do not want their Christmas spoilt and that is what this thread is about

hepatocyte · 21/12/2020 18:49

@MumOfPsuedoAdult

People's survival isn't just about the virus and some need to make decisions about their mental health and which is the greater evil. If 'breaking the rules' doesn't put others at risk but stops you jumping off a bridge then then what's the prob

But there’s always been a clause in lockdown restrictions for this? If you or someone else is at risk of harm (including mental health) it’s not breaking rules to go and see someone/visit someone in need.

The issue is the huge amount of people breaking lockdown who don’t actually need to.

Like masks, of course if it makes you physically or mentally ill you’re exempt. But we have huge amounts of people taking the piss and not bothering because they don’t want to :/

KitKatastrophe · 21/12/2020 18:50

I'm fed up of threads trying to justify the nonsensical rules and lockdowns which don't work.

Hercwasonasnowball · 21/12/2020 18:50

Are there huge amounts of people breaking rules to the point the virus is spreading? I'd wager a bet most of the spread happens in completely legal circumstances. Look at London, a few days ago in tier 2 and socialising in pubs etc was perfectly legal.

Iheartmysmart · 21/12/2020 18:52

How are the people who caught Covid in hospital breaking the rules?

Emeeno1 · 21/12/2020 18:53

'Do not judge another until you have walked a mile in their shoes' actually begins to have real meaning if you actually buy a pair of second hand shoes. They are moulded to another's feet and it is hard to adapt. Your walking feels affected. That person walks differently to you.

Focus on your own troubles, and let others focus on theirs. None of us know what it is like to walk someone else's walk.

Wilberforce42 · 21/12/2020 18:56

This thread is so sad. So much hatred.

BarryWhiteIsMyBrother · 21/12/2020 18:56

@trappedsincesundaymorn will you and/or your siblings be home alone if you don't meet up? Do you not have any partners or children you could be with instead of meeting up?

rumandbiscuits · 21/12/2020 18:57

@nicknamehelp

Try being a parent of a very sick in hospital child at moment only one parent allowed. I can't even see my dh or ds at moment as on a Paediatric oncology ward. If people followed the rules and covid was got under control perhaps my dh could see his very sick dd for more than is currently allowed. I suffer with anxiety but I've had to learn to control that to be with my dd. I'm sorry but Aunt Doris getting her Xmas present in Tier 4 really isn't urgent.
I agree with you people should stick to rules OP to help the NHS manage and sorry you are going through a tough time however people sticking to the rules or not wouldn't change the position we are all in now. The virus has mutated to a much more infectious rate and that would have happened regardless of whether someone went to see their Aunt Doris or not. I think it's unhealthy to presume if everyone stuck to the rule book since March we would all be ok and free now because we wouldn't. Hopefully 2021 will bring better times for us all.
Bence69 · 21/12/2020 18:59

@Emeeno1

'Do not judge another until you have walked a mile in their shoes' actually begins to have real meaning if you actually buy a pair of second hand shoes. They are moulded to another's feet and it is hard to adapt. Your walking feels affected. That person walks differently to you.

Focus on your own troubles, and let others focus on theirs. None of us know what it is like to walk someone else's walk.

This a little louder for the ones at the back x
YouBoughtMeAWall · 21/12/2020 18:59

@Iheartmysmart

How are the people who caught Covid in hospital breaking the rules?
Confused

Who said that?

Dominicwestsscooter · 21/12/2020 19:00

You are so right OP. I’m absolutely sick of the whinging and whining.

Staffy1 · 21/12/2020 19:05

The thing is, while schools are kept open it's never going to be brought under control.

rumandbiscuits · 21/12/2020 19:05

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

It's funny isn't it. Back in February when Caroline Flack committed suicide everyone wouldn't stop going on about how mental health was so important and that they were there if anyone needed to talk about feeling down. Then suddenly the shit hits the fan and suddenly it's all I am so sick of people going on about mental health, shut up and stop whining, yes I know you are going to throw yourself off a bridge but I don't care you selfish tucker people have it far worse than you! Weird how fast things change.

Even a so called nurse on here took the piss and said some vile things about mental illness. That post was deleted.

Couldn't agree more.
RichardMarxisinnocent · 21/12/2020 19:06

@YouBoughtMeAWall

Grenlei I’m not sure why you keep saying “don’t like the rules, move yadda yadda yadda”. This thread is about people who are breaking the rules. Not people who are properly using the bubble rule.
Perhaps because somebody on the thread has declared that "bubbles are the biggest joke"?
MessAllOver · 21/12/2020 19:14

Please go away. If you see any rule- breaking in real life, do ring the police to report it.

I, like the vast majority of people I know, intend to reluctantly obey the rules. I've cancelled my parents visiting and we are no longer doing our socially distanced Santa's grotto and Christmas lights trip. On top of every holiday/trip/event we planned has been cancelled this year. I'm OK with this (well, relatively ok) because I understand the reasons why. Far more painful actually is having to listen to sanctimonious asses (both online and in real life) frothing at the mouth about what they spotted their neighbours doing when they were having fun curtain-twitching.

skippy67 · 21/12/2020 19:18

I'm sick of threads like this.

YouBoughtMeAWall · 21/12/2020 19:19

I’m sick of being told you’re not allowed to discuss dickheads breaking rules.

Sunshinedrops85 · 21/12/2020 19:25

I agree 100%.

All covid has show me is how selfish some people really are. Who gives a eff about anyone else as long as you can get your holiday or photos for instagram?

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 21/12/2020 19:27

@Sunshinedrops85

I agree 100%.

All covid has show me is how selfish some people really are. Who gives a eff about anyone else as long as you can get your holiday or photos for instagram?

I am afraid that despite my best efforts I have been unable to get any photos for instagram. I keep trying but the camera always breaks whenever I try to get in the photo. I am not sure why.
hamstersarse · 21/12/2020 19:27

@5lilducks

I totally agree with you OP. Its really annoying seeing people trying to interpret rules to their advantage. Threads like my brother/sister has a newborn baby and they live about a hours drive away,but can I go and hold the baby while the child's mum cooks and has a shower (whilst the dad is wfh) and call it a support bubble for childcare!
This is a good example of the divisions we have.

The birth of a child is celebrated in every culture and always has been. It represents hope and the beginning of a new life, the survival of the species.

Yet here we are, being told to do against instincts that have been around for milennia, for what is very very likely to be of no risk to anyone,

The same goes with the ritual of death and funerals. It’s an important part of the human psyche to end life with the ritual of a funeral. It’s important for everyone involved in any way in that death. You again ask people to go against their very human nature for something that is again, of little risk to them personally.

I would never dream of criticising someone for doing any of these things because they don’t comply with some rules we made up in 2020 and IMO anyone who has found themselves doing this has lost a very important part of their humanity

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