Would you support a new English lockdown?

[demitrimendeleev1]

Just that really
Yabu- I wouldn’t
Yanbu- I would

The poll results shock me

I have mixed feelings...I would quite happily suffer through another lockdown, it’s my kids I wouldn’t be prepared to do it for. Every time I have to tell them their sports/clubs are cancelled etc it gets harder. Plus I don’t think it can be effective without it either being longer-term or without schools having to close - in November yes cases etc went down, but not for as long as everyone thought it would. And there was barely a dent in deaths.

I could probably manage another month of it, but not if it was as long as the first one.

We still don't know how many lives the lockdowns have cost. The inquests haven't been held yet for the suicides, victims of abuse or people who were too terrified to access the NHS for anything non-Covid, or just frozen out of the system by a lack of technology.

Lockdown harms the most vulnerable the most. The lonely, SNs, people in poverty.

A lockdown at this time of the year would be a killer. People too poor to stay warm. Harder to access food.

Children need education with their peers. Closing the schools again opens up the polarisation between advantage and disadvantage. By June, my 7yo was showing depressed behaviour after 3 months with only a sibling with ASD to play with. My 9yo couldn't handle the intrusion of school life into his safe space at home. Fortunately I'm a SAHM with a decade of teaching experience, but no substitute for learning with peers in a dedicated environment. I know no one who has felt that home learning was adequate. Working parents have been torn between keeping their jobs and meeting their children's needs.

The costs of lockdown outweigh the benefits and we will be too busy paying for it for the next decade to invest in the NHS, education and other public services.

*'Just shield the vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with our lives '
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The cev need access to treatment in the NHS.

If 'the rest get on with their lives' ie catch covid in large numbers and overwhelm the NHS, the cev, vulnerable and indeed plenty normally straightforward patients with appendicitis, heart attack, broken bones will, infection will die.

'Shielding the cev' even if that were possible, which it isn't, as many have children, or carers, or are carers** is not the answer. Although the cev shouldn't be compelled to go to work as they are currently, if they can't work from home.

I'm in the middle of chemo and am hoping the NHS can get through this for everyone, not just for me.

Anyone is just a blood test, accident, lump, bleed or chest or tummy pain away from serious illness. And I say that as a previously super fit person.

[quote Lorius]@GlummyMcGlummerson

Frankly chocolate is not essential. Therefore people should not be buying it in a pandemic.

We all need to be doing everything possible to save lives. That includes staying indoors as much as possible and not spending unnecessary time in shops.[/quote]
@Lorius please explain how if I am in Tesco buying bananas then how is it risky to go to the next aisle along and pick up a bar of chocolate?

Bathroom12345
'Please ring fence the people who are liable to suffer from this horrible virus. Make some special arrangements for them. I know it’s not fair but the average age of death is higher than normal death rates.'

Special arrangements? Would that include access to healthcare not swamped by preventable spread of covid? Or just being locked away? Sorry, ring fenced...

@Lorius But we can’t all stay chained up in our houses? Some of us need to work (and WANT to work rather than on/off furlough dance), want our children educated and would actually like something resembling a life.

@HotPenguin

I don't want a lockdown but I can't see another option, so yes, I would support it. All those people saying previous lockdowns didn't achieve anything - look at the graphs. Previous lockdowns massively reduced the spread. We need to keep reducing the spread until the vaccine programme is far enough rolled out that we can cope with the virus in "normal" mode.

The first lockdown worked because the weather was warm and covid thrives in the cold. Compliance was higher than the government expected. It wouldn’t be now, we’re all sick of it.

No - this has gone on far enough

It wouldn't hurt me financially im a carer for one if my children emotionally we would struggle but if its what's needed I guess we will crack on we have wellies we can walk about in so the weather won't be an issue

I don’t see the point in a lockdown when huge numbers of people aren’t following the current rules.

On the last bus I caught home from work I was the only person wearing a face mask over my mouth. People are simply not bothered anymore.

If it is not going to be enforced, there’s no point. Surely it would be cheaper to enforce the current rules rather than go into lockdown?

I would support lockdown, but I have elderly parents and a very poorly Dad who I'm terrified might catch it, and I'm not affected financially by it - saving money because the children's activities are all halted and we're not going out anywhere. I also live in the countryside, so I'm coming from a different perspective from a lot of other people. Striking a balance and keeping people safe but the economy running is an impossible task. 😢

I'm not in favour of a V2 style lockdown.

One of the reasons flu is seasonal is because we spend more time inside during winter, with normal infection routes being school and work, or traveling to or from

I don't want a lockdown at all but the second type is pointless

I'm the post plague analysis I reckon lockdown 2 will be highlighted as a driver of infection

Op how long will areas have low cases though ? People travel across country quite easily
My town had one of the lowest in uk just a few weeks back its now going up and up , we are still tier 2 , very suprised didn't go tier 3 last review but fully expect we will next review
If numbers keep on rising I can't say I feel safe sending my ds to school and I have never felt like that but numbers are high and new strain is concerning re : how easier it appears to spread .
We may have more info before schools go back but i can't see numbers going down massively as people are still travelling from
Tier to tier

No-in tier four right now and work in retail. I am finding it very hard to believe that covid is spreading in shops, gyms and hairdressers.

The financial cost will be HUGE - and yet, people keep baying for more destructive lockdown

Perhaps they think it'll all be paid for by "anyone but them"?
As a case in point there was a recent thread following a suggestion that anyone paid over £19k should be taxed more, and the outrage was colossal - some of it from posters who've screamed for lockdown. Strange how the "sacrifices" are refused and the "we've all got to do our bit" disappears as soon as it doesn't suit

If it is not going to be enforced, there’s no point. Surely it would be cheaper to enforce the current rules rather than go into lockdown?

You're bringing common sense into it now, stripesnomore - always a risky thing to do

And speaking of enforcement, I notice there have been no suggestions as to how it could be done effectively. Odd, that ...

So far 42% of people think YABU. I bet that figure would have been a lot less back in the spring if you'd asked a similar question.

@Puzzledandpissedoff Completely agree.

[quote Lorius]@demitrimendeleev1

Myself, DH and the DC (12 and 9) have not left the house since March, no.[/quote]
Your poor kids. Imagine frightening your kids to such an extent - I'm not one for reporting, at all, but if I knew of this I'd call SS.

My kids climb trees, run through the grass, feel the wind on their faces and actually live. They aren't imprisoned.

@Requinblanc

No. What is the point? lockdowns don't work.

Shield the vulnerable and the elderly. The priority is fixing testing, track and trace and speeding up the vaccine delivery.

NHS gets 'overwhelmed' every winter so I am getting a bit sick of healthy people having to stay indoors to 'save the NHS' when frankly the NHS should be here to save us. Most of us won't require hospital treatment if we get the virus. The stats remain that the average age of a person dying of this is 82, higher than the average life expectancy while 90% plus of the people who get infected survive. That's what we need to remember. Not the media-whipped hysteria.

Totally agree

Covid knows not to come and get you at work but will only get you if you are enjoying yourself. Also if you DO catch it at work the NHS wont be overwhelmed. The NHS will deffo be overwhelmed if you catch it while enjoying yourself though.

[quote Lorius]@demitrimendeleev1

Myself, DH and the DC (12 and 9) have not left the house since March, no.[/quote]
That’s child abuse, pure and simple.

No.