To hope those selfish people on holiday hurry back!

[Thisismylife1]

We are in a global pandemic, cases rising exponentially. Didn’t take a rocket scientist to anticipate that major restrictions were going to be put in place. It is not the time to take an entirely selfish holiday.

I’ve been flabbergasted at the number of people I’ve seen on social media jetting off to get some sun. We’d all love a holiday but I can’t believe people thought this really was ok!

And now flights are being suspended and people are potentially getting stuck.

AIBU to have limited sympathy?

Walkaround There is no point trying to reason with you when you fail to understand the difference between necessity and want. It is an absolute waste of my time and anyone else's time trying to respond to your ill thought out 'debate'.

@Thismustbelove it’s not a waste of my time because she’s absolutely right. You and others are saying ‘follow the rules’, and then when people do, you say ‘it’s not good enough!’

I’d go tomorrow if I could. A holiday right now is very much needed.

I'm jealous they can afford to go. This country is depressing specially with negative betties around...

It doesn't seem like a sensible thing to do right now but this turn around from the government has been quite sudden. A lot of these travel plans were probably made
months ago, in the good old days of eat out to help out. Now in the space of a few days there's massive panic from our government - makes you wonder what they haven't told us because they haven't seemed too bothered if we live or die for months.

@SatishTheCat

Entitled and precious are you, what pathetic excuses. How depressing that no amount of education or information can overcome the innate selfishness of some people.

What, like Captain Tom?? 😂

OP. It sounds like sour grapes. We could have been visiting family in Central Europe for christmas but decided to have a quite one at home. Gloating that someone may be delayed returning is poor form. Maybe you should delete your social media accounts and you'd be happier.

People are not selfish if they’re following the rules! Travel is allowed. What is the point of having a government if you don’t listen to them and trust their advice? The government has scientific advisors and they allowed travel.

For many who have travelled its not as simple as ‘jetting off for some sun’. I have a lovely friend who is in her mid 20s, hasn’t seen her husband since end of September/ beginning October and hasn’t seen her family for about 650 days - we are both ex pats. She flew home last week to see people, she might be stuck there now but frankly I stand by what she did, she has been at breaking point, she’s still young and coped so bloody well with all the restrictions and being on her own. She was in no way selfish to fly last week - we’d barely heard of this new varient then - and if she gets stuck, so be it.

Well just as long as no one travelling now has an issue with the Chinese who fled Wuhan to Europe, Asia and the US, spreading the virus in the first place.

Cos you know they had it pretty crappy and deserved their holiday or to visit family in safer countries too...

@DarkMutterings

Well just as long as no one travelling now has an issue with the Chinese who fled Wuhan to Europe, Asia and the US, spreading the virus in the first place.

Cos you know they had it pretty crappy and deserved their holiday or to visit family in safer countries too...

This. Why should we travel and spread the virus to other countries that have it more under control ?

@GlowingOrb

I absolutely do blame people who choose to travel. Just because something is legal does not mean it is right. If everyone focused on trying to do the best they can to stop the spread instead of pushing limits, we wouldn’t be in this mess to the same degree.

Absolutely. I am so sick of people doing stuff just because it's allowed. As for the old chestnut "personal risk assessment" it's really not is it? Just think of how many people other people you could infect.

this turn around from the government has been quite sudden

it wasn't, really, if you followed a bit the developments, watch news.

@DarkMutterings

Well just as long as no one travelling now has an issue with the Chinese who fled Wuhan to Europe, Asia and the US, spreading the virus in the first place.

Cos you know they had it pretty crappy and deserved their holiday or to visit family in safer countries too...

@DarkMutterings - what a supremely dim argument. For one thing, I don’t blame China for the pandemic - it’s been on the cards for years. For another, there is a difference between one country knowing about a problem and keeping it secret, and a country informing other countries of a problem so that they can act on the most accurate information possible. If countries keep their borders open, then people are entitled to fly in and out. If they close them, then the UK can go hungry at Christmas. Simples.

I am SO sick of the bitter, divisive blaming going on. It’s getting out of control.

People need to calm down and stop labelling others ‘selfish’, ‘at fault’ and taking the bloody moral high ground through fear. You don’t know why people are travelling. It’s not illegal. Everyone’s circumstances are so different.

I’m cross we’re leaving the EU but I’m not bitter with my friends and family who voted leave. We’re divided enough in this country.

@Thismustbelove - and there is no point debating with someone who cannot tell the difference between their own wants and other people’s wants. You can’t get everything you want any more than anyone else can, however apoplectic you get about other people’s behaviour. You want travel banned - you’re not going to get that by whining unpleasantly and calling people you’ve never met selfish, any more than you’ll be able to stop other people going into cafes that are open, shopping in non-essential shops that are open, or sitting in an enclosed space on Christmas day with vulnerable relatives. Wasting so much energy on pointless anger at legal activities is just going to raise your blood pressure and achieve nothing else, except to make you sound unpleasant. There is plenty I disagree with, but I don’t think everyone doing the things I disagree with is selfish.

@Walkaround
Well said. Too many people blaming and turning on other humans lately. It’s getting more scary than the virus.

Visting the pub, going to a non-essential shop, just leaving the house can and are labeled selfish.

The virus is everywhere already, and taking a test before flying seems perfectly reasonable.

There is a whole travel industry in ruins, and many in this and other industries devastated by Covid have taken their own lives. Show some respect for them rather than cheering on their demise.

Well nobody is going anywhere are they, waking up to news reports that large parts of the world are shutting their borders to us.

Clearly these whole nations feel like the risk is too much? But do carry on with your “personal risk assessments”

Give it a bloody rest .

Perhaps take your judgment elsewhere OP. People who have travelled within the law and the rules have done nothing wrong. Perhaps this is the first holiday they've had all year, or they've had a bad year - who knows. Direct your ire at the government for not closing the borders and preventing overseas travel, not at individuals acting within the law.
Thanks for pointing out you can "easily afford" it though. Obviously as you are comfortably off you can't possibly be jealous
Also it's not a "global pandemic". It's a pandemic.

I just can't understand the mentality of feeling its A-OK to travel right now. It may be 'within the rules' but our Government haven't exactly been measured and sensible when it comes to making rules this year. It's a virus that spreads through contact, so the best thing to do is have as little contact as possible. It hasn't passed me by that the countries that have a good handle on this have all severely restricted travel. It's just not right to travel atm and we shouldn't be doing it.

If anyone is on holiday NOW, well done on making it there BEFORE the borders closed. That was lucky. Enjoy your well deserved break, the world would be a better place if we had less bitter and grim haters resenting everyone and everything .

Plus that's less people queuing in the local supermarkets to get Christmas food. Doing all of us a favour really!

@Callcat

I just can't understand the mentality of feeling its A-OK to travel right now. It may be 'within the rules' but our Government haven't exactly been measured and sensible when it comes to making rules this year. It's a virus that spreads through contact, so the best thing to do is have as little contact as possible. It hasn't passed me by that the countries that have a good handle on this have all severely restricted travel. It's just not right to travel atm and we shouldn't be doing it.

@Callcat - and I can’t understand the mentality of people thinking they have the moral high ground. There is no morally righteous way out of this mess, as every action or inaction has its own consequences. Would I choose to travel right now? No, but nor would I presume to second guess the mentality of every single person that is travelling and then condemn them all for it. There isn’t a single person in this country who can honestly look at themselves in the mirror and claim not to be selfish or self-centred in any way. People shouting out about the selfishness of others are a world away from being selfless themselves - something that they clearly need reminding of at Christmas, which is traditionally the season when we are supposed to be reminding ourselves of this fact.

Absolutely. I am so sick of people doing stuff just because it's allowed.
As for the old chestnut "personal risk assessment" it's really not is it? Just think of how many people other people you could infect

like who? people are wearing masks / taking tests / distancing.

I'm sorry but i am done putting strangers first before my own family - i will take the correct precaustions, but you know what i want to make my child happy over Betty, 87, who lives down the road.

I mean how far do we take this?

Clearly if you're enjoying yourself you're doing it wrong.

This pandemic has just highlighted how jealous, bitter and nasty some people really are. Telling on neighbours, shouting the word "selfish" at any given opportunity. Miserable joyless bastards.