to think Matt Hancock looks knackered

[chomalungma]

Just watched Marr show
Tetchy, knackered
Obvious why - he must have an enormous workload and responsibility

But being knackered and tetchy can't be good for decision making.

@Goldencurtain

I can't imagine all these judgy people would have done a better job

I wouldn't apply for the job, knowing I couldn't do it. He accepted it and can't do it. Huge difference there. And many people, including him, could have done a better job simply by not making dishing contracts out to their equally incapable mates a priority. Would have been a start.

@AlohaMolly

Exercise Cygnus. It was simulating an influenza pandemic but there were lots of parallels with Covid, obviously.

I’m no great fan of this government but I can’t understand why Public Health England haven’t come in for more flack over the management of the pandemic.

Thanks Buddy I knew there’d be someone more knowledgeable than me along shortly!!

You know who looks knackered? Me and my colleagues. And we don’t just look knackered, we’re mentally and physically knackered to the point of not being able to carry on for another day because of Matt Hancock and the bunch of cunts he works with. If they’re struggling with this, it’s of their own doing.

Buddy
Theresa May disbanded the team and cancelled its funding
due to austerity
as there were no Magic Money trees
as against the Amazon Rainforest of money that Sunak has printed

I can't imagine all these judgy people would have done a better job

My 8 year old has been asking questions about how the government have been handling the pandemic and what the reasoning behind their decisions have been. I reckon she could’ve done a better a job by a country mile.

[quote Buddytheelf85]@AlohaMolly

Exercise Cygnus. It was simulating an influenza pandemic but there were lots of parallels with Covid, obviously.

I’m no great fan of this government but I can’t understand why Public Health England haven’t come in for more flack over the management of the pandemic.[/quote]
Perhaps because the government has repeatedly chosen to ignore their advice?

Not one government in the world have managed this well. Not one.

Being in a global pandemic is unprecedented, we’ve never been here before, Italy had one of the toughest lockdowns of all and their death rate is now ahead of ours and rising.

New Zealand have essentially closed the country and is managing to sustain that because they’re already thousands of miles from anywhere, and while they may not have COVID cases, they don’t have much of an economy any more as the majority of their economy comes from tourism.

It’s very easy to be an armchair expert, but no other party would have done things differently, in fact much of what the Tories have done labour were calling for earlier so we would have been in the exact same position at this point.

And we cannot be held responsible for a mutation. Viruses mutate, it has in fact mutated several times already it’s just that this one contains more specific markers.

And whether people like to admit it or not we are the first country to start a vaccination programme.

If another party had been in charge people would be saying the same about them.

@AlternativePerspective

Not one government in the world have managed this well. Not one.

Being in a global pandemic is unprecedented, we’ve never been here before, Italy had one of the toughest lockdowns of all and their death rate is now ahead of ours and rising.

New Zealand have essentially closed the country and is managing to sustain that because they’re already thousands of miles from anywhere, and while they may not have COVID cases, they don’t have much of an economy any more as the majority of their economy comes from tourism.

It’s very easy to be an armchair expert, but no other party would have done things differently, in fact much of what the Tories have done labour were calling for earlier so we would have been in the exact same position at this point.

And we cannot be held responsible for a mutation. Viruses mutate, it has in fact mutated several times already it’s just that this one contains more specific markers.

And whether people like to admit it or not we are the first country to start a vaccination programme.

If another party had been in charge people would be saying the same about them.

South Korea Taiwan Singapore

The countries that had SARS and MERS and H1N1

EVERY sane country

• used its local health teams
• involved local government
• decentralised decision making
• worked WITH local health authorities

ONLY stupid countries

• handed multi million pound contracts to the landlord of the pub a politician went to
• spent £12,000,000,000 on a useless team led by a known failure (Dido Harding) to come up with no goods
• built multiple Nightingale Hospitals that then knew they could not staff due to ten years of Tory Austerity

and ONLY THE UK
tried to leave the worlds largest trading block in the middle of this shit

Blame where Blame is Due
The Tories
led by Johnson

@AlternativePerspective I agree with you.

Plus, it's not surprising if Matt Hancock looks knackered. The strain of his job would be enough to wear anyone down.

I know that our government has made some mistakes, but I do think they've tried their best in very difficult circumstances. The UK is much more densely populated than many other countries, so that is part of the reason why our death rates are so high, but I think when this is all over and the final figures are known the picture will look very different.

The UK is much more densely populated than many other countries
Singapore

I know that our government has made some mistakes, but I do think they've tried their best in very difficult circumstances.
To give HUGE contracts to dodgy friends
as per the National Audit Office

but I think when this is all over and the final figures are known the picture will look very different.
Yup
some of them will be in Prison

My doctor friend looks absolutely awful, pale, drawn she is on her knees, working and dealing with so many mental health issues in young people has shocked her the most. Not being able to process patients onward who really need to see consultants, handing out prescriptions whose operations should by now be a distant memory.

No I am not surprised those in parliament are ill, tetchy, it is a monster of a virus that just goes on and on.

"He's just trying his best."
Well if thats his best. I'd hate to see his worse.

"I can't imagine all these judgy people would have done a better job".
You're right I probably would make a hash of it. Difference is I'm not the health secretary.

These people remind me of the first batch of WW1 generals, fighting a mechanised war with Cavalry.

An inexperienced cabinet put there purely because of their views on Brexit or in Hancock's case willing to change principals for power, even J.Hunt wouldn't do that.

I don't want people there who try their best, i want people there who are the best.

Trying his best? Christ I'd hate to see what happens when he's not trying his best.
I expect he is tired but we're all tired. A lot of people are work insane hours and earning a lot less than him. No sympathy for him.

I totally agree I really can’t say anymore but put your self in his shoes, I’m sure we wouldn’t like to be him at the moment

He might be tired and tetchy but at least he's got money the bank if he wants to walk away.

@ListeningQuietly Singapore is more densely populated, that's true, but it also has a very wealthy population - it's something of a tax haven and has many millionaires. I believe the people there are also very compliant with mask wearing, which is another factor. Plus they have a tropical climate, so are not all congregated inside for months of the year, with windows closed. Lots of factors to consider.

PS: Plus any countries close to the equator have more sunshine, so their populations are less likely to be deficient in Vitamin D.

@BasinHaircut

And I don’t think anyone is qualified for this.

Me either. If there was a magic wand I'm sure it would have saved by now. This is nature and its beyound human control.

The only option is mitigation but no one can stop this. Its like expecting a cure for death. There are some things in life that humans have zero say in.

I feel for him. I am sure people have worse jobs. But it's back to that chestnut of it could always be worse. We could be dead, it doesnt mitigate that right now I wouldnt want to be him.

I'm am pretty sure he isnt enjoying this pandemic any more than the rest of us.

Whatever party was in charge would be in the exact same shit.

@jasjas1973

These people remind me of the first batch of WW1 generals, fighting a mechanised war with Cavalry.

An inexperienced cabinet put there purely because of their views on Brexit or in Hancock's case willing to change principals for power, even J.Hunt wouldn't do that.

I don't want people there who try their best, i want people there who are the best.

This.

@AlternativePerspective

Not one government in the world have managed this well. Not one.

Being in a global pandemic is unprecedented, we’ve never been here before, Italy had one of the toughest lockdowns of all and their death rate is now ahead of ours and rising.

New Zealand have essentially closed the country and is managing to sustain that because they’re already thousands of miles from anywhere, and while they may not have COVID cases, they don’t have much of an economy any more as the majority of their economy comes from tourism.

It’s very easy to be an armchair expert, but no other party would have done things differently, in fact much of what the Tories have done labour were calling for earlier so we would have been in the exact same position at this point.

And we cannot be held responsible for a mutation. Viruses mutate, it has in fact mutated several times already it’s just that this one contains more specific markers.

And whether people like to admit it or not we are the first country to start a vaccination programme.

If another party had been in charge people would be saying the same about them.

Just picking up in your NZ economy comment.

The NZ economy is 3% down on last year which is a phenomenal result given lack of overseas tourism. Compared to the EU down by 7% and the UK down by 11%. Hardly 'no economy'...

No sympathy from me. He’s paid well and is doing a terrible job. On top of that he laughs his way through briefings like this is some kind of joke. Alright for him though, in his lovely big house, not a care in the world when it comes to feeding his family and having a roof over their heads. Whatever tier us minions are all put in, MP’s really don’t care because their jobs are safe either way

Absolutely @whiterabbitsweets

Yeah well - whatever.

My sympathies are directed more at the nearly 70,000 grieving families of the Covid 19 deaths.