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May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)

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lionheart · 19/12/2020 01:47

With thanks to Seamus Heaney for inspiring the President Elect. Smile

"History says, don't hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up,
And hope and history rhyme."

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PerkingFaintly · 06/01/2021 20:43

God almighty, I leave the telly to cook dinner... and... what? Shock

Lweji · 06/01/2021 20:43

Watched a Republican Senator from South Carolina earlier on. She was very angry indeed.
She said "pissed off" on BBC World. Grin

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 20:44

@RedToothBrush

Robert Farley *@drfarls* I am told that the reluctance of DOD to call out the DC guard is because they would come under the command of POTUS, which would obviously be a problem.
Question:

Is Virginia National Guard are under the control of the Governor or the President? Whereas the DC guard comes under the President - and if he tells them to do something they don't want, does this leave them with a problem? Is this the issue?

gwenneh · 06/01/2021 20:44

Military jets just went over our house. They're bloody loud.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 06/01/2021 20:44

Going to start another thread....

mathanxiety · 06/01/2021 20:44

www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/dc-protests-trump-supporters-clash-washington-capitol-police-live-updates/

Good coverage here. Check out the live box on the right.

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:44

Ivanka tweeted this. Then sharply deleted it.

And hasnt replaced it with any other tweet

May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)
MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 06/01/2021 20:45

Is that the US or UK gwenneh? I've been vaguely hoping someone in our military has the sense to watch the eastern European borders.

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:45

ooops try again

May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)
gwenneh · 06/01/2021 20:45

US. We're between NY and DC so we often get jets overhead when airspace needs to be cleared.

mathanxiety · 06/01/2021 20:45

Whereas the DC guard comes under the President - and if he tells them to do something they don't want, does this leave them with a problem? Is this the issue?

No, the Mayor of DC calls the shots in DC, the city itself, including requesting National Guard.

Apileofballyhoo · 06/01/2021 20:45

@lionheart

Pelosi's office, apparently.
Hope it gets a good clean before she gets back to it.
lionheart · 06/01/2021 20:45

Merrick Garland is going to have his work cut out for him.

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Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:46

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

I'm happy to do it if not.
It's number 117.

TomatoesAreFruit · 06/01/2021 20:47

This is just so unbelievable. I am sorry si have nothing useful to add.

Lweji · 06/01/2021 20:47

Pence calls for a stop to this (Sky News)

mathanxiety · 06/01/2021 20:49

Mitch McConnell needs to spend a good deal of time all on his own behind a locked door reflecting on Bolshevism.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 06/01/2021 20:49

I really am struggling to focus on work. I wonder how many people here in the US are actually getting any work done.

lionheart · 06/01/2021 20:51
Sad
May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)
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OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/01/2021 20:51

More national guard on their way.

mathanxiety · 06/01/2021 20:51

Governors of VA and MD have co-operated with Mayor of DC's request for National Guard support.

PhoebeSnow · 06/01/2021 20:53

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mathanxiety · 06/01/2021 20:53

DC National Guard now mobilised.

The Dept of Justice will lead the policing response in DC.

There is a huge effort to keep the US Military out of this situation. For how long will treating this as a policing issue be possible?

littlebillie · 06/01/2021 20:54

I feel today is like another warning from history, God knows what it would feel like being in the US tonight

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