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May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)

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lionheart · 19/12/2020 01:47

With thanks to Seamus Heaney for inspiring the President Elect. Smile

"History says, don't hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up,
And hope and history rhyme."

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RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 20:26

'Request for a national curfew'

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:26

CNN are calling it an attempted coup and insurrection by Trump and his supporters.

A woman has been shot.

SanFranBear · 06/01/2021 20:26

I came on here to 'WHOOP' for Merrick Garland only to read the escalating situation and am now glued to the BBC..

WTF, Murica??!

lionheart · 06/01/2021 20:27

Just saw a godawful clip of a woman wheeled away by paramedics as they do cpr.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/01/2021 20:27

If he is going to be the rallying point for these thugs, he needs to be imprisoned sharpish, and his phone removed.

For his own safety, natch.

tobee · 06/01/2021 20:28

ABC reporting National Guard are coming in. Trump tried to stop them (?)

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 20:28

Dave Lee @DaveLeeFT
CNN now reporting a shooting on Capitol grounds, woman in critical condition after being shot in the chest.

I believe there is a photo of this circulating on social media. The woman does not look in a good way. No idea if its genuine but the US news agencies are now taking reports of a woman having been shot seriously.

RJnomore1 · 06/01/2021 20:29

Hope you don’t mind me bobbing in, I don’t usually post here but I cannot believe what I am seeing!

BoreOfWhabylon · 06/01/2021 20:29

Pence needs to get off his ass

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Anon778833 · 06/01/2021 20:29

There are apparently QAnon Bots who decided they were going to do this today, in the full knowledge they may be killed in the process. People who have dependents ffs.

This really needs to end - it’s absolutely terrible.

DeRigueurMortis · 06/01/2021 20:30

What happens if Congress fails to count the electoral vote today?

I understand it's a constitutional requirement to do on this date, starting at 1pm.

Can't they simply do this "tomorrow" or are the implications more significant?

BoreOfWhabylon · 06/01/2021 20:30

@RedToothBrush

Dave Lee *@DaveLeeFT* CNN now reporting a shooting on Capitol grounds, woman in critical condition after being shot in the chest.

I believe there is a photo of this circulating on social media. The woman does not look in a good way. No idea if its genuine but the US news agencies are now taking reports of a woman having been shot seriously.

I've just seen that. Looks genuine to me (ex A&E nurse)
tobee · 06/01/2021 20:30

National Guard and 200 state troopers coming in say ABC

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:32

Laura Kuennsberg, BBC, on the money as usual.

NOT.

Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak
Looks like scuffles inside the Capitol

Scuffles? It's not a drunk bloke trying to throw a punch outside the local Wetherspoons.
She's pathetic

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 20:32

Jonathan Martin @jmartNYT
The Virginia National Guard and 200 state troopers are being sent to DC, per a top Va official.

lionheart · 06/01/2021 20:32

Video clip taken by someone who was standing right next to her has been posted.

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ZZTopGuitarSolo · 06/01/2021 20:34

Riot police have arrived (I'm watching Fox News - even they are horrified that this is happening at all).

tobee · 06/01/2021 20:34

Tbf on Laura K she did tweet about scuffles some time ago.

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:35

Fox News have tweeted calling it 'a brief evacuation of the Capitol building'
Shock

Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:35

tobee It was at 10 to 8. When this was all going on and there were protestors on the Floor.

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 20:35

Joyce Karam @Joyce_Karam
Hard to understand what is Pentagon "analyzing" about DC's National Guard request.

The actual Capitol Building is breached. What is there to "analyze"? They were deployed over summer in DC for way more peaceful events.

DeRigueurMortis · 06/01/2021 20:36

This thread will probably move fast.

Can the OP or a thread regular be on standby to create a new one when the time comes please?

TIA

tobee · 06/01/2021 20:37

I stand corrected @Roussette

Lweji · 06/01/2021 20:37

@DeRigueurMortis

What happens if Congress fails to count the electoral vote today?

I understand it's a constitutional requirement to do on this date, starting at 1pm.

Can't they simply do this "tomorrow" or are the implications more significant?

Worst case, on the 20th, Pelosi is sworn in as President, as House Majority Leader. A shot in the foot.
Roussette · 06/01/2021 20:38

No probs tobee it's all so shocking isn't it.

I'll start a thread of no one else does, I'll keep an eye on the posts, still 100 to go