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May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)

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lionheart · 19/12/2020 01:47

With thanks to Seamus Heaney for inspiring the President Elect. Smile

"History says, don't hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up,
And hope and history rhyme."

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 14:40

Perdue said that Trump has been consistent with his claims that there were voter irregularities and said Trump just "wants some answers."

His claims have all been answered, but he didn't like the answers that he got. He wanted some very specific answers: ones which meant he'd won the election in that state. No other answers were going to be accepted by him.

Cacacoisfarraige · 04/01/2021 14:52

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CaveMum · 04/01/2021 14:55

Somehow lost you all - never fear, I am back! (not that anyone noticed!).

Just making sure I've got my (socially distanced, natch) seat ready for tomorrow's Georgia run offs.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 15:25

There won't be any results tomorrow or the day after in Georgia; absentee votes will still be being counted for days. And after that, with all the protests and demands for recounts and claims of voter fraud being taken to the courts and rejected for lack of any evidence, it'll be at least 16th before a result is available, at a guess. Might be longer.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 15:27

It might be clear on the night: we can hope. But I don't feel inclined to optimism at the moment, and Trump is off his chump.

Roussette · 04/01/2021 15:34

His claims have all been answered, but he didn't like the answers that he got

This has been Trumps for the last 4 years. Everything that he doesn't like is fake news. If it doesn't fit his agenda it's been written by the Enemy of the People.

Gosh to this below... Shock

Jim Acosta
@Acosta
The WH made 18 attempts to call GA sec of state Raffensperger before Trump’s attempted shakedown over the phone Saturday, a GA state official confirms to CNN.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 15:47

"Oh God, it's bloody Trump again. Tell him I'm hoovering the gerbil, can't come to the phone right now."

Roussette · 04/01/2021 15:55

"no, you used that excuse last time, I'll tell him you're on the phone to Biden, maybe he'll go away then!"

Roussette · 04/01/2021 16:02

Raffensperger adviser to
@MarcACaputo
on why they recorded their call with Trump: “Lindsey Graham asked us to throw out legally cast ballots. So yeah, after that call, we decided maybe we should do this.”

lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 04/01/2021 16:44

Liking all the scenarios! Me and my OH have been speculating who has been knobbling him - thinking the small desk, some of the court cases that have been brought, etc, feeding him bad intel, down to this leak. I wondered if there is a 'double-agent' pretending to be a repug who managed to get close to him and gain his trust. He thinks maybe it's someone who got left behind when Obama left? I bet there's lots of secret 'rooms' in that place! Kind of like the idea of a Bourne-type living under his nose, causing trouble, a bit like a poltergeist :D

Roussette · 04/01/2021 17:11

No idea how true this is... speculation but who knows what his plans are, doubt he knows

www.thedailybeast.com/plane-sightings-fuel-rumors-trump-planning-escape-to-scotland-on-day-before-biden-inauguration

If so, it will not be a warm welcome

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/01/2021 17:16

I hope Nicola Sturgeon refuses to allow him to enter.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 17:18

From that same page of the Daily Beast, article below:

"The secretary of state reportedly told his staff that he didn’t want their recording of the call to be released unless Trump went on to attack state officials or publicly lie about what had been discussed. However, before The Washington Post published the recording Sunday, Trump attacked Raffensperger in a tweet, writing that he was “unwilling, or unable, to answer” questions about his false claims of widespread voter fraud and that he “has no clue!”"

Which would explain why it was released, wouldn't it.

Moral: don't poke Raffensperger with a pointy stick: he might bite you.

Second moral: don't attack people who have made it plain they are not going to dance to your tune, because they are not going to dance to your tune about that either.

Lord oh lord, what a fool the Fart is.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2021 17:19

BoreOfWhabylon
I hope Nicola Sturgeon refuses to allow him to enter.

On 19th he will still be POTUS: would she be able to refuse entry to the Head of State of an allied nation?

Wait until there is a warrant out against him, then deport him to answer charges in New York, maybe?

prettybird · 04/01/2021 17:32

@BoreOfWhabylon

I hope Nicola Sturgeon refuses to allow him to enter.
She unfortunately can't as she doesn't have any powers re UK Border Control. Where she does have power is over Public Health, so maybe she could claim he was a virus spreader Grin
DGRossetti · 04/01/2021 17:43

Well, to be honest, if I was in any position of power, I'd have all my calls recorded as a matter of course (as it happens I'm not in a position of power, and I still record all my calls ...).

And given the alleged brainpower Trump is supposed to have surrounded himself, it's impossible to believe that not one of them suspected Raffensperger might have done that. And why.

So it's interesting to speculate on whether Trumps attack was against their advice, or whether they let him rip knowing it was going to blow up somehow.

Our old chum Phil Moorhouse

suggests that Trump is trying to build up an inertia making him "too hot to handle" in the courts. Which reminds me as to how exactly he's going to arrange his own pardon ?

I wonder if he could resign, and then Pence makes him VP just in time to chair the Senate on the 6th ?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/01/2021 17:49

Where will Trump go...?

(Thoroughly recommend the real film if you haven't seen it!)

May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 04/01/2021 18:05

About dead voters - of the 2, at least 1 of them is known to have been a Republican. Talk about flogging a dead horse. I wish he and his enablers would just bugger off to Hell, where they belong snd should have been since at least 2014.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/01/2021 18:38

@Roussette

No idea how true this is... speculation but who knows what his plans are, doubt he knows

www.thedailybeast.com/plane-sightings-fuel-rumors-trump-planning-escape-to-scotland-on-day-before-biden-inauguration

If so, it will not be a warm welcome

Maybe that's why the US hasn't refused to allow flights from the UK to land in the US. Scrotus is worried that the UK will ban US arrivals in retaliation. Then how would he get to Scotland? I suggest a leaky rowboat. Grin
Roussette · 04/01/2021 18:51
Grin

Well.... Turnberry is now closed until 5th Feb. So I doubt he can come without it being a very unpopular move. Reading some of the Scottish press the theme in comments seems to be 'well... he can feck right off....'
😂

Cacacoisfarraige · 04/01/2021 19:03

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lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 04/01/2021 19:46

He definitely can! We've got a Janey Godley...

Potustrumpnomore · 04/01/2021 20:39

I love being scottish right now 🤣 Janey godley is a legend I love her videos

lionheart · 04/01/2021 20:48

I think I read somewhere that he removed Melania's new decor at the other White House.

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