May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)

[lionheart]

With thanks to Seamus Heaney for inspiring the President Elect.

"History says, don't hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up,
And hope and history rhyme."

I’m wondering if the precise number of the votes thing is significant... at the very least it’s unlikely he picked that number himself? It seems strange to be so precise there, when he’s so vague about everything else.

Happy new year, btw! Much love to u you all

Sorry, I think I answered my own question... it’s because that’s how many he’s behind, plus one... duh!

Frustratingly, that WP transcript is behind a paywall... anyone have another location? X

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/audio-transcript-trump-pressures-georgia-050635333.html?espv=1

I’m wondering if the precise number of the votes thing is significant... at the very least it’s unlikely he picked that number himself?

If you were to write a story where the incumbent POTUS pays to rig an election and it didn't work, the plot would pretty much be the last 2 months.

It's hard not to feel a warm glow that somewhere in the world someone is counting millions of dollars having scammed the scammer.

Thanks @DuncinToffee! And @DGRossetti it is, isn’t it?! Lovely warm feeling 😎

Re the WP, using a private browser can help bypassing the paywall

Having read the transcript which is batshit crazy can anyone tell me who the 'beep' person is? She (I think it's a 'she') is mentioned a lot by Trump and it's not Stacy Abrams. I think it's some official or other? He has a big beef with this person

Trump voter regrets (almost light hearted)

Ahhh thank you Cacacois
I imagined it was something like this.
I bet her life has been turned upside down.

The Trumpers are claiming he wiped the floor with Raffensperger (thank god for a smart keyboard that autocompletes his names!). And that there is another tape (video?) "coming soon" which will blow the whole thing wide open. (possibly will be released just after Trump's healthcare plan)

Aah, just read script. It clarifies my confusion around him saying he wants them to find 11,780 votes for him because he won by more than that - (why not expose the fraud and find ALL the votes he won?)

So what he really wants them to find is all the illegal and fraudulent votes, only to the tune of 11,780, one more than Biden’s win margin, to overturn the Georgia result. He argues that this should be easy enough and implies that it would be the right thing to do since, by the extent of the fraud, his margin of win was many times greater.

No malfeasance here - he just wants them to do the right thing

Some confusion... Twitter and some press are saying that Trump is suing Raffer for releasing tape. But there are also 2 cases that have just come to light (due to the weird way they were filed) that Trump filed against Raffer before the tape conversation.
GOP are claiming that the taped call was discussing how to settle the two cases before they get before a judge. Which is pushing the envelope a bit

Sorry Roussette. Just realised you already posted the Schmidt.

edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-georgia-election-joe-biden-congress/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_content=2021-01-04T10%3A43%3A03&utm_medium=social

Did you? No probs Lion worth repeating anyway!

"CNN obtained the audio from a source who was on the call and had direct knowledge of the conversation."

On the call? That rather narrows it down, doesn't it?

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

"CNN obtained the audio from a source who was on the call and had direct knowledge of the conversation."

On the call? That rather narrows it down, doesn't it?

If it's the truth.

I have heard rumours that some news outlets lie.

Maybe they are deliberately saying to to put the cat among the pigeons at Trump's end! He'll be storming down to the basement to wherever it is that keeps the tapes there of all telephone conversations originating in the White House, with his flame-thrower.

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Maybe they are deliberately saying to to put the cat among the pigeons at Trump's end! He'll be storming down to the basement to wherever it is that keeps the tapes there of all telephone conversations originating in the White House, with his flame-thrower.

"Tapes" - showing your age there

I was thinking of it from Trump's pov: he'd assume tapes, hence flame-thrower. Tapes are highly flammable.

Not sure if the Assange news is connected in anyway ?

(Oh, all right: I was being frivolous.)

I find that I am mightily intrigued: why did Trump (on1st) veto "S.906 - Driftnet Modernization and Bycatch Reduction Act"? What is his interest in fishing?