My neighbour keeps moaning at everything.

[Wantsadvice1978909]

My neighbour is just non stop moaning. I’ve just heard him banging on the wall and shouting (I think maybe swearing?) because my children are up playing. They’re 3 and 4. Most children are up earlier than this and I feel like we can make any noise in our own home. He moans if they’re playing at 4pm, he’s threw eggs into our garden (after we were outside talking about 4yo egg allergy) and has thrown biscuits over whilst out with our DCs in the garden.etc. He even went as far as going to our landlord and saying we have the police out every weekend (we’ve never had them out!). Landlord told us he did exactly the same with previous tenant and that’s why she left🙄 what can I do? We private rent and he owns his house.

People going on about axcessive noise before 08:00, but how do we know it is excessive?

If the walls are that thin, even reasonable quiet play may be heard by the neighbour. The OP shouldn't have to silence her children to appease someone who's behaviour is vile. And what do you do with the children? Make them sit with their hands on their lap until 08:00? Tell them not to talk until 08:00? I could understand if they were shouting and shrieking, but it doesn't sound as if they were.

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People going on about axcessive noise before 08:00, but how do we know it is excessive?

If the walls are that thin, even reasonable quiet play may be heard by the neighbour. The OP shouldn't have to silence her children to appease someone who's behaviour is vile. And what do you do with the children? Make them sit with their hands on their lap until 08:00? Tell them not to talk until 08:00? I could understand if they were shouting and shrieking, but it doesn't sound as if they were.

I think people just assume because he could hear them it means they were loud, but we can always hear each other. We always hear his opera music and tv.

Not sure why handing him a cake laced with laxatives just popped to my mind....
I hate miserable neighbours...

You need to report the egg incident to the police immediately - that is vile and could have devastating effects on your child.

Everything else is a bit tit for tat and I am not sure why you won't deal with the most life-threatening issue (for your child) as a priority - way more important than opera music.

@FrankskinnerscRoc

It doesn’t make any difference whether you rent or own, he has no more rights than you. I can hear my neighbour w*anking the days his wife’s at work 🙄.

Change your wifi title to We can hear you wanking No 8

For anyone that cunty I wouldn't make my dcs be quiet at all in the hope that he would get fed up and move.

Throwing eggs in the garden when he heard you discussing the allergy? He's vile and there's no chance I'd make my kids be quiet to accommodate that level of arsehole.

Sorry op, it sounds very stressful for you

Jesus how loud can someone wank 😳

7.30 is not early! My Morrisons shop is due between 6-7 this morning. A postman can deliver from 7am. Our bins need to be put from 6am for collection.

What someone said up thread about builders is hardly a comparison to children playing with a kitchen and play food.

He's got form for the type of shit.

Fight fire with fire and give him something to moan about. If you can stand up to him and when he starts banging, go round and ask what his problem is, look him straight in the eye and tell him YANBU but he is.

Falling that, move. You can't reason with crazy.

*It's up to all of us to be considerate of our neighbours' circumstances though. I don't allow my dogs to disturb my neighbours with barking and my neighbours, thankfully, don't allow their kids to disturb me. It's all part of living in a civilised society.

This.

This thread appears to be divided between considerate and selfish people*

Yeah selfish twats who think that family noise of two young children playing normally is unacceptable!

Ones that seem to condone egg throwing.

That's not a civilised society at all, it's entitled people trying to bully out normal families.

As someone said go live in a retirement village or in the middle of nowhere and let others get on with their normal family lives.

You could receive a noise abatement order if he had the right evidence regardless of you having children or not and regardless of his behaviors that would be a separate legal matter, does he rent or own his property? If he owns he has more rights than your self. It doesn't seem worth the hassle to be honest and I would just look at a new home with thicker walls and assess my new neighbours first.

That's not early tbh I wish our neighbours made noise at that time instead we have car doors slamming at 2 or 3 in the morning every weekend .They go out in garden for a smoke so yapping away so I can't get back to sleep so why in God's name should we be quiet for them to sleep off their hangovers ! We are also covid level 3 but that doesn't matter to them as long as they go to their partners 3 or 4 times a week .

It's their visitors smoking . Our area isn't even supposed to have visitors . I'm bloody sick of it .

Wow surprised at how many folks feel 7.30 is too early for any noise... me and dh have to get both kids up dressed and out of the house by 7.15 week days, we drop them at childminder at 7.30, we are going to make noise doing that!! Obviously we avoid loud unnecessary noise but it wouldn’t be silent...!

Some folks.must be on the wind up. 7.30 is perfectly reasonable for normal household noise. And to compare it to when builders can start... come on, behave yourselves.

You are allowed to make noise at 7.30am FFS. Ok brass band practice may be a little off, but children waking and playing is quite normal.

Retirees havent earned the right for people living nearby to be silent every morning. Wtf

He plays opera music dead loud in the morning? He can get in the fucking bin then complaining about a couple of preschoolers playing with their toys. Also as long as children aren’t screaming and making a huge racket I wouldn’t have thought most of their playing would be any louder at that time of day than watching tv. Both are perfectly reasonable noises to be making in a house at 7.30am.

Throwing eggs into your garden and lying that the police are at yours every weekend is harassment especially the eggs. That alone is really quite sinister. No wonder the previous tenant moved out.

There are two issues here:

1. of course your children can be awake and playing at 7:30, but there is quiet play and noisy play. 7:30 isn't ridiculous but 8:00 is probably more universally accepted as 'not early'.

2. he is criminally harassing you by throwing eggs etc. You are lucky to rent as you can approach the police without it being a problem for you selling the house later. So record everything and report it.

If it doesn't improve you can move hopefully.

To be honest I hear kids playing early in my place and I don’t mind it at all. But I’m up early anyway so I suppose I can see why it might annoy others. But I just view it as they are little kids, if they shout it’s just part of it really, I’m more of the it’s nice to hear happy kids camp myself. If they were crying constantly that would bother me more ha ha. He sounds a bit odd to me and a nightmare to live beside. I think you could have a word at the police station about the egg and food throwing, I’m pretty sure that’s crossing a line more so than your kids making noise!

@Mally2020 he does NOT have more rights than the OP just because she is renting and he owns.

scoobydoo1971 have you spoken to the police about the disability abuse?