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To feel like we are only just surviving feed to feed- 3 week old twins

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coralpig · 11/12/2020 06:12

I’ll try and keep this brief (have posted before) we are really really struggling to build up any semblance of a routine and I am totally knocked for six:

Context:

  • planned pregnancy although nobody plans twins. They were due to be born at 37+1 by ELCS but I only made it to 36+5. Went into labour- was having very intense contractions in the operating theatre and had an EMCS - outcome was two healthy and beautiful boys.
  • end of pregnancy I developed severe obstetric cholestasis and was getting little to no sleep from horrific itching and burning hands and feet. This last about 3 weeks. Both my allocated midwives were on leave at the same time. I felt alone.
  • they were very sleepy at birth and didn’t latch or do anything useful on the breast. I had pre expressed a lot of colostrum and this meant my milk came in very early and there was lots of it! I was told to express at every feed and they had lots of breast milk top ups but still lost quite a lot of weight. We ended up having nearly daily midwife visits at home and I found them super stressful. Due to lockdown and difficult pregnancy I hadn’t left the house in my many many weeks and wanted to go for a walk but they didn’t give us a time slot so I had to wait in all day. We got discharged from midwives at day 17.
  • one midwife suggested an intensive formula programme with huge quantities and they couldn’t cope- went floppy and sleepy and we ended up in hospital for the night. They had still lost weight- I couldn’t believe it.
  • eventually they started to gain but I started to really struggle- when one twin cries and gets something wants it too. So difficult.
  • my bleeding also massively increased and I called the hospital and the gp who told me I was probably just doing too much and it was normal. I had an allergic reaction to my section dressing and came out in a skin rash and I got a uti but put this down to the twins and the breastfeeding cycle. They were cluster feeding and I struggled to tandem. I was knackered but didn’t think much of it. I also started getting shivers.
  • DH and I weren’t getting on and at each other all the time.
  • last week I suddenly got very shivery and couldn’t get out of bed- suspected covid- temperature was very high 38.5. Booked covid test but friend recommended calling maternity who invited me in when I shared my other symptoms. My heart rate was sky high -144- and I was clearly not well. It was sepsis. They admitted me straight away and put me on a drip and iv antibiotics. I was back on postnatal and too unwell to have babies there. It was a traumatic stay and there was an empty cot in the room. The staff were lovely but I wish I’d asked them to remove the cot- I was very poorly and they were unsure of the source of infection- my body was not responding to the antibiotics and I felt terrible- shivery- couldn’t even have the radio on. I’m normally quite fit and well. I cried a lot missing babies. They found a blood clot in my womb that they suspect was infected or that I had a lining infection. They consented me for a D&C and then cancelled it. Next day took me for an MVA then sent me home on tablets. I’m better than I was physically but get very very tired and also still quite traumatised.
  • one thing that really affected me is being so weak I couldn’t get out of bed or brush my teeth but having to express milk or leaking milk all over my bed and hospital gain while talking to the doctors. I’ve decided to stop breastfeeding and think it’s right though it’s sad to do it like this.
  • I am trying to tail of my supply- I am soaking through my clothes with milk it’s horrible
  • I’m on the list to be seen my talking therapies
  • an incomplete root canal due to lockdown means I need a tooth extracted. It was meant to be this week but I was in hospital and there are no appointments for weeks.
——— Issue now is that after this shaky start, we are really struggling to establish any sort of routine. Boys are formal fed and thriving but we are just surviving feed to feed and we don’t do anything but feed, change and sleep. When they are down I have a choice to do jobs in the house, shower or sleep. There’s often only a few minutes respite as they’re not in sync and are both demanding and sicky. Now they’re getting more alert I’m desperate to introduce playmat time (tried this last night and they enjoyed) and also some semblance of a routine. When does it get easier? Hubby has them downstairs for hours or in the nursery while I try and rest as I’m still recovering but they are so wide awake at night.

In my desperation I contacted a twin specialist sleep nanny but she is so expensive we could afford one night at a push when we need support with routine which takes longer.

The babies are nearly 4 weeks old. Does anyone have a good twin routine for this age that works? I hate the feeling of just surviving feed to feed and doing nothing else and need to protect myself..

OP posts:
NoSleepInTheHeat · 15/01/2021 12:08

Mine are 6yo now, I still vividly remember thinking 'only x more feeds and the day will be over'.
It will pass , I promise.

MustardMitt · 15/01/2021 13:17

Oh I can so relate to your post! My 36 weekend twins turn 12 in a week so it’s been while though Smile

You are honestly trying to do too much. Order in food when you can, sleep when you can, shower when you can. I used to put mine in the bouncy chairs and nap in the living room as they didn’t like the Moses basket.

You will only upset yourself more if you try and get into a routine at this age - I know, I tried. I tried the Gina Ford one, it only took a couple of days before I was wondering why I was waking sleeping babies to feed/change when they clearly didn’t need it?! Especially in the morning!

Above all, be kind to yourself. You’ve had two babies and battled sepsis, you’re allowed to let the housework slide. Until they’re at least 4 - and I’m not even joking on that.

Comtesse · 15/01/2021 13:22

Hope you are doing better OP you have clearly been the wars, feed to feed sounds like the right horizon to be honest, but it changes fast from week to week - keep trucking, you brave woman Flowers

BeakyWinder · 15/01/2021 13:35

BLOODY HELL WOMAN!! You've given birth to twins and had sepsis in the last month!! Give yourself a break immediately. Forget routine, rest rest rest, feed, change, sleep repeat- and I mean you and the babies there. That's it, don't try and do any cleaning or cooking beyond the minimum to keep alive, and accept any help you can get.

memememe · 15/01/2021 15:09

i dont know if you will read this, there are a lot of replies.... however, i am a twin maternity nurse/night nanny. please message me and ill help you remotely (and even physically if you are local) for free. i have references/dbs/first aid/ofsted etc you can check out before you take any advice.

hang in there; youve got this!

georgarina · 15/01/2021 15:17

Wow. You have been through hell. Just sepsis in itself is a nightmare, plus the UTI and allergic reaction and everything else you've had to deal with...unbelievable.

Sounds like these things are improving now though so while of course you're exhausted it will not always be like that. Soon 3 weeks will be a month will be 3 months and it will all get so much easier. Sending love Flowers

BeakyWinder · 15/01/2021 16:13

@memememe

i dont know if you will read this, there are a lot of replies.... however, i am a twin maternity nurse/night nanny. please message me and ill help you remotely (and even physically if you are local) for free. i have references/dbs/first aid/ofsted etc you can check out before you take any advice.

hang in there; youve got this!

Lovely offer Smile
snowliving · 15/01/2021 16:45

Oh goodness OP.
I hope things are smoother for you now.
My pair are 12 now but I remember the living hell that was the first four months.
I never faced into a whole day, I split it into 1/4's and noted the successful survival of each one.
It will get better with time.

Whynothaveathird · 15/01/2021 19:08

This is what the early days are like -hang in there!

blackfriars · 16/01/2021 05:48

Hi OP - so sorry you’ve had such an awful time. I had my first baby in May and though it was just the one I felt so overwhelmed for the first four weeks by the constant feeding and lack of sleep. I remember turning a real corner at 6 weeks when he started to sleep longer stretches as his stomach must have grown. Every week is so different when they’re so little. Just wanted to send a hopeful message to say hopefully it will get a lot better very soon.

Greygreenblue · 16/01/2021 06:13

Another twin mum here - yes, literally all you do for the first couple of months is feed twins and you had a rough start to boot.

You’ll get there, it will get easier, go easy on yourself. This is hard, it is freaking hard. Take every offer of help you can (I had to get over not wanting to be a bother...) and let everything not strictly necessary go. This too shall pass.

LemonDrizzles · 16/01/2021 07:01

Nothing useful to add but I did want to send virtual hugs. If/when baby classes start again, if you can afford it, it may be worth looking at. You can ask the instructor about twins. Pre covid, the class leader would take one of the twins for the duration of the class as their baby partner

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