EU blackmailing the UK

[houseinthesnow]

So it comes to pass. The EU have decided unless we agree to their unreasonable demands they will halt all travel, including air and road travel whilst still fishing in our waters apparently!

It is nothing short of piracy.

The true nature of the EU has been exposed for some time, hence our departure - but now no one can be any doubt just to the levels they will sink to.
The EU have no interest in trade relations, nor cooperation, they only seek control and power. The trading relations is and was always, window dressing to create a superstate - and it seems they are now not afraid to inflict as much damage as possible to stop a member leaving.
Even the most passionate remainer will now see how deeply disturbing this behaviour actually is.

One could argue it is an act of war in fact.

It should be treated as such.

I will happily eat beans to the end of my days than be blackmailed by the EU. We all knew it would get nasty at the end, but who they knew they were capable of this. I suppose we can't be that surprised given the past. The gloves are off now for sure - and that goes both ways we should remind them.

Hard hats on.

"That IS coming make no mistake."

Is it fuck.

Do you know how the eu works?

Each and every one of us got to vote for people to represent our interests

Like democracy you know.

Did you never bother ?

Yip, it seems we are deploying navy ships to protect our fishing waters
Because we are so much str9nger than the combined might of the EU, and this time th American won't help us out

The British pound could plunge by 10% or more if the United Kingdom does not finalize a trade deal with the European Union this weekend.

Currency traders who once assumed a deal would be completed before a Brexit transition period ends on January 1 will be nervously watching events over the next 72 hours after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson warned late Thursday that the "deal on the table" was not "right" for the United Kingdom.

@houseinthesnow

Again typical brexiter response to flounce off without engaging.

It will be a long time before we manage to heal the damage that populism has done to this country, but the pendulum will swing back of that I am sure. I just feel very sorry for those who will bear the real economic brunt of this fit of pique, even if they voted for it.

Can I nominate this thread for Classics as the best example of satirical performing art since the inception of the Internet?

And if we get on just fine, as I am sure we will

If you want to appear blasé, best not start with a rant about acts of war.

People like the OP try and disguise it, but their views always have lashing of racism and xenophobia with some good old WW2 analogies popped in too

A war they never fought in or studied.

I've taken to banging on about Waterloo, and my friends Agincourt.

And the OP forgets the Normans (although they would undoubtedly call them "French") gave the English a damn good kicking in 1066 when they replaced our entire system of government, royal family and nobility in a coup that still persists in 2020.

Again, so much remembering about our history with the French and Germans; total amnesia about our history with Ireland.
It's poetically shite, really

@bellinisurge

Again, so much remembering about our history with the French and Germans; total amnesia about our history with Ireland. It's poetically shite, really

Does it really matter when they are pretty much inventing it anyway ?

1. To stay members of the largest trading bloc in the world with the ability to trade tariff free with other nations in the EU.

2. Greater global influence

3. Participation in free trade agreements with Japan and Canada as an EU member

4. The fact that the EU accounts for 44% of all UK exports of goods and services

5. The fact that the EU accounts for 53% of all UK imports of goods and services
   As a member of the EU the UK maintains a say in the shaping of the rules governing its trade with its European partners

6. 3.1 million jobs in the UK are directly linked to exports to the EU

7. Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers) as well as gaps of unskilled workers (fruit picking, catering)

8. No paperwork or customs for UK exports throughout the single market

9. Price transparency and removal of commissions on currency transactions across the Eurozone

10. Areas of the UK receive substantial amounts of funding from the EU. Cornwall receives £750 million from the EU social fund. The Midlands have received £122 million from EU infrastructure funding. Rural areas and areas hit by industrial decline also receive funding.

11. 3000 SMEs have received funding from the EU.

12. Access to the single market has attracted foreign investors to the UK. UK FDI has nearly doubled since the creation of the single market.

13. Freedom of movement.

@TeenyTinyDustinHoffman

Too late, OP has flounced off I'm afraid. Even so I doubt they would have approved of your choice of words or pointed out a typo or something instead of actually addressing the points.

And that is only part of a very long list, OP. Have you figured out what the GFA is yet. Do you care?

I don’t understand what you mean when you assert that the UK has worse XYZ because of the EU, that would then logically follow that other countries in the EU had better XYZ. And if that’s the case, then surely it’s the case of our government making poor decisions within the remit of the EU - the EU doesn’t manage our housing or benefits? They didn’t publish guidelines that say ‘the UK must accept the Polish immigrants who want to have their babies here but France doesn’t have to’? There are choices to be made and clearly you don’t like the choices the UK government has made.

[quote Eleganz]@TeenyTinyDustinHoffman

Too late, OP has flounced off I'm afraid. Even so I doubt they would have approved of your choice of words or pointed out a typo or something instead of actually addressing the points.[/quote]
It's my understanding they had to pop out.

It's my understanding they had to pop out.

Convenient that, isn't it?

Shift change at 6pm I suppose.

Still no thoughts on that pesky acronym though. Weird. Maybe the night shift will have more luck.

Our welfare system has been abused for years, with people from Eastern Europe and other countries sending home child benefit and other benefits to their home countries (my cleaner did this for three years so I know just how it works, she was very honest about why they came)

Please look up ONS stats on who is actually claiming benefits. There are more ppl from non-EU countries claiming than EU country citizens.

More for the OP to froth about

Imran Ahman Khan MP on twitter

I stand with millions of Britons that are deeply insulted at the shocking news that the German Chancellor has refused the British Prime Minister’s request for a telephone call. This is an insult to every Briton, whether they support our PM or not.

I imagine other countries will start to follow.. I mean the UK were one of the best members in terms of attraction for members of the EU to come for work and to live. They can earn more in the UK whilst having a decent way of life with healthcare and jobs. That's why when Tony opened the gates, lots of people came to live and work.. because it's better.
The EU are like a bad marriage where you only realise how shit it was until you go through the painful, challenging divorce.

[quote Littleideasbigbook]@CherryPavlova Perhaps if they walked around the murals of Derry and saw all the plaques stating a person was killed at that spot they might understand the importance of the GFA. Another point of this whole mess that is woefully steeped in ignorance.[/quote]
People should be made to watch a programme called Reeling in the Years for the 80s and 90s. It's an Irish programme that shows clips of the news with a soundtrack of music of the time. The sheer amount of death in it in NI and mainland Britain in some cases is staggering. It's incredibly hard to believe that either people have such short memories or actually just don't care.

Does anyone work in the car industry? Nissan in Sunderland, employs 7,000, are saying the plant is not viable if there is a no deal exit.

The EU are like a bad marriage where you only realise how shit it was until you go through the painful, challenging divorce.
And living in a shitty bedsit above a barber shop will be bliss

@whatshalliget

Bollocks to everything you have said OP. Every single word.

With jingly bells on.

a bit off topic, but this thread does at least show that MN isn’t a hive mind...