To hope these parents are ashamed of their boys tonight?

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Today my Y9 ds was taunted by boys making the Nazi salute at him. This, after a couple of weeks of 'Dirty Jew'.

If these are your sons, is this what you want for them? Is this the attitude you would like them to have to their fellow human beings? Do you feel proud of them? Would you like them to be treated this way? What are you saying to them tonight? What do you think the Head of Year should say to them tomorrow?

What do you think your sons should do next?

Or maybe - meh, it's just bantz, boys will be boys.

The attitude is definitely increasing. My parents gave me a Hebrew name and I am quite dark featured so I get questioned over it ALL the time. The wars in the M.E that we are expected to send our sons to fight are not helping at all to be honest. I It has put everyone on edge and defensive. I have to explain that yes, I really am Irish and Catholic to my clients quite often- especially if they are from certain countries like Croatia.

You should definitely take it up with the school OP.

Internal exclusion?! Remove your children from this school. Where are you? Is there a school with a larger jewish contingent locally? Experiencing this at such a young age is really damaging.

This is just disgusting. Some people are the worst, I'm so sorry.

No it won't have been effective. Boys will just be resentful that this has caused them a punishment. Possibly in some time they might look back and feel bad but at 14 they will be too proud and/or too ignorant to do anything other than resent.

School sound ineffective, I don't think Holocaust education, although important, should be main education of anti-semitism.

I’ve never hit my children but if it was my son, he’d be slapped across the face, told how utterly ashamed I was of him and every single thing he values would be ebayed and the profits given to a victims’ charity.

I’d think they would be suspended.

I think they should be excluded.

I wasn't even sure if this post was real and or someone just trying to drum up MN indignation?

Oh FFS. Yes, let's counter racism with troll hunting

Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful. Parents and boys ought to hang their heads in shame.
No one deserves this, your poor boy. Hope he is ok.

Suspension is the very least the school should do . And I would be tempted to report this to the police . They are disgusting and deserve to be punished

It is a hate crime, OP. I am so sorry your son had to experience this.

That’s absolutely awful. My friend dad was called Hindu bastard by Pakistani Muslim boys who were teenagers. My friend dad spoke to one of the boys uncles who lived on the same street. The uncle did fuck all. The muslim teenagers then firebombed the house. The Muslim parents knew about it And let them
Harass my friends family. Police were called and even the council. The anti social behaviour team says they didn’t want to inflame the situation. It was a hate crime but nothing was done. The councillors were useless. My friend who used to be so open with everyone has said she hates them
With a passion. The fact that the parents and community knew about it and didn’t do a thing to stop it speaks volumes about how they must be pleased about it. A good talking to would have stop those evil racist boys.

thankyou to the posters who stuck u for me its just struck a nerve

sorry to be a bit thick but what is internal exclusion in school

The school should practise zero tolerance to all discrimination. There will always be horrible, soulless people who will look to persecute others and I think they should just be shut down. No opportunity to be educated alongside peers, no face to face schooling.

If they can't respect their school community and behave like a human being, they should be allowed in school.

It reminds me of the recent programme featuring Judge Rinder. He visited where his family members were rounded up and gunned down then buried in a mass grave, some not dead yet. Not everyone who fired those bullets were Nazi soldiers - it was also neighbours who had presumably grown up alongside those Jewish people they then massacred.

Bad people who are unaffected by inclusion and education.

Have you asked the school what their holocaust education during the internal exclusion actually is, OP?

I agree with @Puzzledandpissedoff that if this keeps reoccurring it doesn't sound like they're handling it particularly effectively, and I'd wonder if that starts with "education" that's no more than lip service.

You need to report them. I’m sick of Dd coming home reporting on boys, and it’s always boys, calling other kids N*** and Homos. One of the main offenders had been excluded for a week, what’s app screen grabs. There’s also lots of body shaming of girls, the school are coming down hard on them.

Internal exclusion is where students don’t attend class but get the work sent to them in a separate room. Normal school hours etc It’s usually for disruptive behaviour in class / never heard of it being used for something as serious as this. This punishment is useless - it barely punished the kid and doesn’t inconvenience the parent. It’s a joke

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Hate crime, report to school and police. Don't stop until these boys have been properly disciplined, they need suspensions. Love to your DS.

This exactly. Actually Suspensions are the least they should receive.

Sorry your ds has experienced this.

You should tell the school you’ll be taking the information to the local papers

Not everyone who fired those bullets were Nazi soldiers - it was also neighbours who had presumably grown up alongside those Jewish people they then massacred.

Like the Stolperstein in many European cities - in so many streets. These people were neighbours, friends, interwoven into the community. I will never understand the denunciations.

If my boy had done this, I think I might slap him too. I hope your boy and your family have a wonderful Hannukah.

Police. Definitely.

I’d like to think we have moved on from my late DFs upbringing where he was told to put CofE on his call up papers because once it was known he was Jewish the bullying would be merciless. He would whisper the word Jew or Jewish if we were out the house for fear of anyone hearing. Jewishness was something you paid the price for.

Things seemed a bit better in my youth but now there are an increasing number of comments made towards me or my DD or my DBs that makes my blood go cold. It seems worse since the referendum when it felt like those who had bottled up their racism for years now had permission to freely voice it. We cannot stand by and let people get away with any sort of racism. It’s not an option. Too many black, brown, Jewish people have gone and still go through too much suffering. OP I hope your family managed to enjoy the first night of Hannukah. I hope the police will take this very seriously indeed.

If internal exclusion happens, do the parents even get told? It sounds fairly pointless and not really appropriate to this situation. The police need to do their thing - and they have no qualms about involving the parents. The bottom line is that OP’s child is entitled to feel and be safe in his school and in the community. Police officers like doing these community involvement calls. Good ones like to think they’re reducing the risks of these youngsters re-offending as adults. Even where the parents are useless it can make a difference. Obviously different forces have different things they can do.

Today my Y9 ds was taunted by boys making the Nazi salute at him. This, after a couple of weeks of 'Dirty Jew'.

This really shocked me. That this shit is still prevalent.

Then I'm deeply saddened to read more in the thread where it's the same thing.

It seems unbelievable to me. I know that's part of the problem.

Fucking hell.

I'm so sorry, to any of you that this is in your life.
Happy Hannukah to all.

Am disgusted to read this happened to your family. I would be apoplectic over this. Happy Hanukkah to you and every household celebrating tonight

You are addressing the parents. But where do you think these kids bring it from? :(
Hope they are kicked out of school at least.

This is utterly despicable and I'm appalled your son has been on the receiving end of such horrific behaviour. Agree this is a hate crime and I would not let this pass, consider reporting it to the police.