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To want to know a benefit of brexit?

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Dishwashersaurous · 10/12/2020 10:53

I know that brexit has been done to death. But as we crash into a no deal and inevitable queues at the border my children are asking what is the benefit of brexit.

Could someone please tell me a tangible benefit that I can tell them- as I am struggling to think of anything

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NiceGerbil · 12/12/2020 05:01

Upsides= not sure

Anyone know what's happening with passporting? I've not seen it mentioned in the news etc. Financial sector is massive in UK.

notevenat20 · 12/12/2020 06:02

One benefit is that I get to keep reading these threads and having a chuckle at the doombringers.

Is this sadism or masochusm?

TrailingLobelias · 12/12/2020 09:30

I didn't vote as I wasn't in the UK. I have an immigrant background and my partner is also an immigrant and now we live in a fourth country!

However, immigration does lower wages of the local working class. We're professionals so we don't make much impact, but I know people we socialise with are working for less than a local would.

Also, making a weak comparison between fascists and people who don't want immigrants is incorrect. Fascist countries had huge immigrant workforces. 25% of workers in Germany were immigrants unter Nazi rule. Spain employed a huge immigrant workforce as well. The idea is that the natives shouldn't have to lift a finger.

You will notice post colonial and post fascist countries are the ones where people still have immigrants cleaning their houses for example- the mentality has remained. If you go to Eastern Europe that is very uncommon- even rich people would be uncomfortable having servants.

Ifailed · 12/12/2020 09:35

25% of workers in Germany were immigrants unter Nazi rule

You do realise there 'workers' weren't there on their own volition!

TrailingLobelias · 12/12/2020 09:45

Some were as it was the only choice. Others were rounded up. They're not there now out of an entirely free choice either- their companies were all bought up and closed down during shock therapy. Most companies are now foreign owned in Eastern Europe so the harder they work the richer Germany/Sweden etc gets. Wages are terrible. Property is being snapped up by foreigners and rents are becoming impossible. Utilities are being privatised and prices are soaring. Overall the free movement of capital and services doesn't benefit workers in the countries they're leaving or the countries they're going to.

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notevenat20 · 12/12/2020 13:36

I am not sure people are trying hard enough to list benefits. I'll start

a) Increased sympathy with those from poorer countries.
b) Easier to diet when food is more expensive.

Please add more.

Smallgoon · 12/12/2020 13:44

You've set your above quote up in a sneaky way, as if to imply that if it's not as racist then it's not racist full stop.

Racism is racism. Just as sexual harassment is sexual harassment. There aren't scales. Not sure why you keep harping on about 'it's not as racist'. You seem to be doubting your own argument.

Of course it's not as racist as the 'n word', but as I said earlier, how can it not be racist if it's a pejorative based on skin colour?

Gammon was coined back on on skin colour, was it? Or was it rather based on middle aged, racist/little-Englander males (who shock, horror, all happen to look very similar)? How does one be racist towards a bunch of racists? I'm confused.

Theworldisfullofgs · 12/12/2020 13:51

Rees Mogg will make even more money.

TrailingLobelias · 12/12/2020 13:56

@notevenat20 people were much thinner before joining the EU but it was more due to eating home made local tradition food, and women not having to work outside the home as much. Food prices have gone down but so has quality. People weren't hungry in the early 1970s.

British people were even less sympathetic towards poor people before they joined the EU. They had a vast exploitative colonial network. Even recent aggressions like the war in Afghanistan and the current operations in Yemen are with the US, not the EU.

(France and Germany have their own agendas, I'm not saying the EU are nice, just that the worst espects of British culture didn't come from the EU)

DuncinToffee · 12/12/2020 18:02

An EU benefit lost
Cornwall down to receive just 5% of what it used to get in EU funding.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-cornwall-55279468

Europilgrim · 12/12/2020 18:06

Cornwall down to receive just 5% of what it used to get in EU funding.

More fool them for putting their trust in someone who is known for lying!

nosswith · 12/12/2020 18:25

There could be the benefit of no VAT on domestic energy bills (perhaps for zero carbon energy not fossil fuels) and on sanitary products and condoms As the EU had a policy that once VAT was imposed on a product or service, it could not be removed.

Doubt it will happen though. Mr Johnson probably knows more about nappies than sanitary products, and nothing about using condoms.

TheSunIsStillShining · 12/12/2020 18:34

@nosswith

There could be the benefit of no VAT on domestic energy bills (perhaps for zero carbon energy not fossil fuels) and on sanitary products and condoms As the EU had a policy that once VAT was imposed on a product or service, it could not be removed.

Doubt it will happen though. Mr Johnson probably knows more about nappies than sanitary products, and nothing about using condoms.

How do you see the benefit of no VAT on domestic products in contrast to not having access to the single market? Do you think they are even comparable?
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/12/2020 18:44

The term racism applies to a race of people. The clue is in the name....

The term gammon applies to a thick subset of morons. They aren’t bred as Gammons. 😱ugh the thought. They are an unpleasant group of the British population. But they are unfortunately white British.

Eleganz · 12/12/2020 18:46

I believe the current line is that "it won't be as bad as some people think".

Great benefit that.

Lovely1a2b3c · 12/12/2020 18:52

There is nil point.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 12/12/2020 18:55

I see what you did there lovely

DuncinToffee · 12/12/2020 19:10

David Allen Green summarised it well

Brexiters once promised the United Kingdom would put in place a free trade area ten times bigger than the European Union

The United Kingdom has actually ended up with a free trade area smaller than the United Kingdom – with a trade barrier down the Irish sea.

Ifailed · 13/12/2020 10:39

@notevenat20
a) Increased sympathy with those from poorer countries.
b) Easier to diet when food is more expensive.
c) Easier to be a SAHP with rising unemployment.
d) Drop in house-prices brings more properties onto private rental market.
e)Fish you wouldn't normally touch with a barge pole freely available, "It's octopus again for tea kids!".
f)Opportunity to re-discover turnip stew and cabbage salad.
g)Oliver oil returns to tiny expensive bottles in chemists, back to good old lard.
h)UK expats return from Europe, so no need to travel so far to meet elderly relatives. (They'll probably be kipping on your sofa).
i)Dig-for-victory returns as parks, sport fields and railway embankments are ploughed up to grow spuds.
j)Learn to cook spuds in 100 new & exciting ways.
k)Drop European languages from school curriculum, introduce compulsory Standard Beijing Mandarin.
l)NHS budget slashed as 14% of staff leave. Back to good old British medical remedies like cupping, leaches and belladonna for asthma.
m)Let's join the EU campaign begins.

notevenat20 · 13/12/2020 10:43

@Ifailed

Great inspirational list! I bet most of us had forgotten the advantages of belladonna for example.

notevenat20 · 13/12/2020 10:46

Also, don't forget belladonna berry juice can used to enlarge your pupils, making us look prettier. Bonus! Everyone will be more attractive after brexit.

DianaOfTheLakes · 13/12/2020 16:43

We will be able to buy more powerful vacuum cleaners, after Brexit. According to the DM Grin.

The list in the article isn't filling me with hope.

Ten ways YOU can help make No Deal Brexit a success for Britain
mol.im/a/9047129

Dugee · 13/12/2020 19:39

Everyone will be more attractive after brexit.

Due to the Brexit diet, we may all lose that extra bit of weight.

OhWhyNot · 13/12/2020 19:45

I did think we wouldn’t be seeing much of Nigel Farage

But noticed he is popping up on tv again recently and earning a nice salary from it

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