To wonder how people make it to adulthood without knowing

[Staffy1]

That a Christmas tree decoration is called a "bauble", not "ball ball"? Or how they make it through junior school without knowing the difference between "his" and "he's"? What happens in schools these days and don't people ever read anything?

@Seymour5

A new one on as seen on social media. 'Ano'.

I know. FGS.

What is it meant to mean?! 🤣

Most of the top performing education systems in the western world start formal schooling such as writing, reading and maths at 6. And come out with better educated young people than ours. Child development research is fairly unequivocal that there's no benefit from formal schooling before that age. Young children learn best from play-based activities, which benefit the brain development that takes place at that age in terms of logic, spatial awareness and physical interaction with the world, social relationships, etc. "The child's work is play" is so true. There is literally no need for formal schooling at 4, and in many cases it is damaging.

@PolkadotGiraffe

'I know'.

[quote Seymour5]@PolkadotGiraffe

'I know'.[/quote]
😧🤨😩😆

Please tell me this is not true! 🤣

"Ano" is also "yes" in some languages🙈

On the other hand: reading words but not making the connection to how they sound. I thought the word albeit was pronounced ‘Albay’ as if it were French . I also used to think in church that when you say, ‘Thanks Be to God’ that actually God’s first name was Peter; ‘Thanks Peter God’.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

"Ano" is also "yes" in some languages🙈

It was in English. Sort of. 'Ano' was followed by 'hun'. 😮

@Lady1576

On the other hand: reading words but not making the connection to how they sound. I thought the word albeit was pronounced ‘Albay’ as if it were French . I also used to think in church that when you say, ‘Thanks Be to God’ that actually God’s first name was Peter; ‘Thanks Peter God’.

That Peter thing is very funny. And yes, we make mistakes based on reading. I was saying awry as awe-ry for a long time and I know I'm not the only one. Reprise is another one and segue. There are lots of old threads about this kind of thing. I suppose Chester Drawers is the opposite - something you hear, but don't read very often.

@Lady1576 Thu 17-Dec-20 15:10:06
Harold be thy name

[quote belinda789]@Lady1576 Thu 17-Dec-20 15:10:06
Harold be thy name[/quote]
Lol

Awe instead of this “awwwww” to indicate cuteness etc.

SA for essay.

Today. A slither of cake. NO. Its a sliver. Snakes slither. And we don't have boarders between countries. We have borders. Aaargh.

God will the sneering never end. Seriously who cares!

They’re probably dyslexic you intolerant pedant.

Would you openly sneer at other disabilities?

@N0tthe0nlyfruit

Funniest one I saw was a neighbour in the WhatsApp group bring very concerned about the theft of Catholitic Converters.

That was the Spanish Inquisition, wasn't it?? 😉

@Someonetookmyname

God will the sneering never end. Seriously who cares!

They’re probably dyslexic you intolerant pedant.

Would you openly sneer at other disabilities?

I heard 'slither'. The person who said it is not dyslexic.

If you are intolerant of threads like this, scroll past. Personal insults say more about the person who makes them....

Tell me, what does the need to be point out the minor spelling mistakes of others say about you as a person?

How do you know they weren’t dyslexic?

“Why do pedants pedant?” - an interesting read:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2017/may/30/why-do-pedants-pedant

Dyslexia can manifest as people mixing up sounds in words they say, as well as in speech. And obviously, if you're dyslexic, you might read less frequently, as it is less pleasurable, and you're less likely to notice whether it is "slither" or "sliver" even if the word is in front of you. (Interestingly, the OED suggests that people have been linking those two words for at least a century.)

But sure, most people who are not dyslexic have still had the experience of realising they have misspelt or mispronounced a word for years, even as an adult. Just like most people have had the experience of being mildly irritated by someone else's minor errors :)

@Meruem

Some people just aren't that bright. I genuinely don't mean that in a nasty way. We all have different levels of intelligence and spelling is really difficult for some people. I feel like there's this assumption on MN that we all start from a level playing field and if we don't learn/achieve xyz, it's our own fault. Some people just aren't as bright as others, and that's ok. Or it should be.

This. It's perfectly normal and ok.

But also some people who do this may well be brighter than you but didnt get the opportunities. They may have not read much growing up as may not have had parental encouragement, may have been surrounded by similar people so never seen/been shown anything different and may have gone to a crap school. They may have had so much other stuff going on at home that they reay couldnt prioritise education. Some kids have to care for parents or are in abusive homes which fall under the radar.

@ravenmum

Dyslexia can manifest as people mixing up sounds in words they say, as well as in speech. And obviously, if you're dyslexic, you might read less frequently, as it is less pleasurable, and you're less likely to notice whether it is "slither" or "sliver" even if the word is in front of you. (Interestingly, the OED suggests that people have been linking those two words for at least a century.)

But sure, most people who are not dyslexic have still had the experience of realising they have misspelt or mispronounced a word for years, even as an adult. Just like most people have had the experience of being mildly irritated by someone else's minor errors :)

I have this a decent amount with mispronounciation as I learnt alot through reading but the people I was around didnt necessarily use the words for me to hear them. There are also a lot of words I only heard in professional practice. I had a lovely home life with parents educated to college level (secretarial and first year A level) both from state schools and working class homes. They encouraged me a lot but would not have had the skills I now have to help my own children given I studied at undergrad and postgrad plus am now in a professional role which requires me to write and speak professionally every day.

I still get things wrong and I'm not stupid at all.

@Newmumatlast You get that a lot in the children of immigrants, too - like mine :) I do have a decent command of the local language and can even tell them a few things they don't know, but many immigrant parents are well behind their children. Obviously, if the children are born locally, they sound like everyone else - there's no accent to let people know that they might have that educational drawback.

My parents didn't get to O levels for various reasons but both have a very good vocab. However, we are all introverts, and spent a lot more time reading than talking.