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Should William be our next king ?

340 replies

Lardlizard · 05/12/2020 21:20

Yanbu for yes
Yabu for no

OP posts:
WoolieLiberal · 07/12/2020 10:30

I’m all for a referendum on the monarchy and would vote to retain it.

They had one in Australia and voted to keep it, though republicans there still say the people made a mistake.

I’m also an ardent Remainer and would love dearly to see Brexit cancelled, but many of my fellow Remainers seem to think that the votes of those who voted Leave are not worth as much as theirs was because Leave voters as educated as they are.

Perhaps we should have a weighted vote system for referendums where:

1 person = 1 vote

If you have qualifications, your vote is weighted as follows:

GCSES (or equivalent) = 1.25
A level (or equivalent) = 1.5
Degree (or equivalent) = 1.75
Professional/Post-grad = 2

Hopefully that would keep everyone happy Hmm

MarshaBradyo · 07/12/2020 10:37

In all honesty I don’t think we would vote to abolish atm. As much as many find them irrelevant especially atm.

Maybe after some time the next generation would be different.

VinylDetective · 07/12/2020 10:45

It looks as if a referendum on retaining the monarchy would be nowhere near as close as the last one. The support is overwhelming.

www.statista.com/statistics/863893/support-for-the-monarchy-in-britain-by-age/

WiseOwlWan · 07/12/2020 10:46

I couldnt care less but i understand that that ismt how it works

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2020 10:54

It looks as if a referendum on retaining the monarchy would be nowhere near as close as the last one. The support is overwhelming

How much of that is support for the Queen rather than support for the monarchy though?

5 years into Charles reign. Now that will be very interesting.

VinylDetective · 07/12/2020 10:56

The poll was specifically about the monarchy. The Queen wasn’t mentioned as far as I can tell.

Aroundtheroom · 07/12/2020 10:58

No, I think Charles should be king.

I think the Royal family is the one major advantage this country has. The Queen is one of the most famous women in the World, millions from all over the World tune in for the Royal weddings and it puts Britain on the map. The royals are sent to represent this country at political and state occasions all over the World - who would do that job if we didn’t have them? One President could not fulfill the job of the 8 or so full time working Royals. Princess Anne alone (now in her 70s) carried out 85 royal engagements last year.

Anyone who says the Royals do nothing for tourism is talking from a point of total ignorance. Having spent my working life travelling all over the globe, the most common question when hosted in a family home is about the Royals. On return trips to the UK, without exception guests have asked to go to Buckingham Palace in the hope of glimpsing the Queen.

Finally, I love the history and tradition and connection with the past. I also think the monarchy is a unifying force that transcends politics, race and class.

Iris5543 · 07/12/2020 10:59

Abolish the monarchy!

People are queuing at food banks and the public purse funds weddings for overindulged minor royals!

Pay your own way, everyone else has to.

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2020 11:00

The poll was specifically about the monarchy. The Queen wasn’t mentioned as far as I can tell.

Yes, but people aren’t well equipped to pull apart their feelings about the Queen versus the institution.

That’s very obvious caveat in a survey like that, that anyone using it officially would be very aware of.

MarshaBradyo · 07/12/2020 11:01

I agree with some of what you post but I find this surprising

Having spent my working life travelling all over the globe, the most common question when hosted in a family home is about the Royals.

I’ve travelled a lot for work and lived wise where and can say no one has asked me about Royals.

PurpleDaisies · 07/12/2020 11:01

The royals are sent to represent this country at political and state occasions all over the World - who would do that job if we didn’t have them? One President could not fulfill the job of the 8 or so full time working Royals. Princess Anne alone (now in her 70s) carried out 85 royal engagements last year.

A president and a selection of ambassadors. Other countries seem to manage ok.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 07/12/2020 11:02

An elected head of state should be the 'next king'.

emmetgirl · 07/12/2020 11:04

That's not how it works.

notdaddycool · 07/12/2020 11:05

No, it's not how it works. Also, Charles won't be king for long, he's 72 already. Poor William if he has to do it for 60 years.

VinylDetective · 07/12/2020 11:06

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

An elected head of state should be the 'next king'.
On the evidence of the ability of the electorate to make the right choice in the last few years we’d probably end up with something a lot worse.
TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2020 11:08

On the evidence of the ability of the electorate to make the right choice in the last few years we’d probably end up with something a lot worse.

At least we’d be able to turf them out.

MarshaBradyo · 07/12/2020 11:09

If an elected version does what is currently expected it’s a few public engagements and looking good with swishy hair / a good dress sense (optional). Not too hard.

PurpleDaisies · 07/12/2020 11:12

On the evidence of the ability of the electorate to make the right choice in the last few years we’d probably end up with something a lot worse.

Other countries have popular presidents who appear to do a god job.

Nothing to stop any of the royals running if they want.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 07/12/2020 11:13

I also think the monarchy is a unifying force that transcends politics, race and class.

I'm surprised by that perception. For one thing, it's impossible that an institution embodying the Head of State and Head of the Church of England, not least ownership over the judicial system (and immunity from prosecution, incidentally), could ever be apolitical. They are the only citizens in the entire country exempt from the FOI act, which begs the question of exactly what they don't want us to see. The unelected Head of State has a meeting with our elected PM every single week - the contents of which we are not allowed to know - yet claims to be powerless and in no position to exert influence. Her eldest son's branch of the family never stop pontificating over political issues, many of which they clearly don't understand. It's quite embarrassing to witness.

As far as race and class are concerned, the Mountbatten-Windsors could hardly be better-placed to emphasise the divisions there. They epitomise privilege in every sense of that particular word. Far from seeing them as a force for unity, in my perception they're its polar opposite.

PurpleDaisies · 07/12/2020 11:13

And I don’t understand this argument about electing someone crap. No one is using that as an argument to stop electing our government.

Theyouttheresayin · 07/12/2020 11:18

No, because once the Queen dies that should be it for the monarchy. We can keep the jewels, the buildings and the changing of guards and whatever that the tourists love because they belong to the country, not a bunch of overprivileged people with a tenuous claim to hereditary power.
Neither Charles nor William should be king. No unelected person should be meeting with our PM once a week. And as for the Lords - don't get me bloody started.

Samcro · 07/12/2020 11:19

i like have a RF, but do feel the pandemic has shown how little they do, .
do get a bit tired of hearing how PW has a young family so should not have to do it until they are older. his family live an obscenely privileged life. PW&K do very little, yet get to live in splendour. if he doesn't want it he can walk away as PH has.
the idea that they are hard working is an insult to hardworkers lol

Theyouttheresayin · 07/12/2020 11:20

'On the evidence of the ability of the electorate to make the right choice in the last few years we’d probably end up with something a lot worse.'

Well, that's how democracy works, you don't always get the outcome that you personally voted for, but at least there's some choice in it.

Theyouttheresayin · 07/12/2020 11:23

'I agree with some of what you post but I find this surprising

Having spent my working life travelling all over the globe, the most common question when hosted in a family home is about the Royals.

I’ve travelled a lot for work and lived wise where and can say no one has asked me about Royals.'

Agreed! I'm in the USA 5-6 times a year normally, and in all sorts of homes there, and they apparently LOVE the Royals, yet no-one has EVER asked me about them.Same for when I'm in Oz or the Middle East. Not once has someone asked about the Queen or any member of the royal.
The NHS though, they love to ask about the NHS.ALL the time.

Still, I've not been in a bit because of COVID so maybe they'll be asking about why we haven't handed over our paedo 'royal' Andrew to the authorities for questioning yet.

MimiDaisy11 · 07/12/2020 11:26

If you want a choice monarchy isn't for you.

Down with the crown! Up the republic!

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