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Christmas is cancelled

142 replies

MariaK91 · 04/12/2020 12:23

My husband and I are housed through my partners job on a large estate. My SIL and husband are also housed on the same estate as my husband and SILH work together.

So, H and I have hosted and done all the cooking for my SIL, SILH and FIL for the past two years and paid for the bulk of it too. It's a lot of hard work. Whenever my FIL comes over he brings his little dog over and it attacks my cats and goes to the toilet on the floor, runs all over the furniture and FIL doesn't do so much as lift a finger to control it or clean up after it (or even apologise for the trouble!) so this year we've said he cant bring it. He's refusing to put it in a kennel, or leave it at my SIL house which is 2 minutes drive so SILH/H can easily check on the it while they're out on shift. FIL said he'll leave dog in his van on our driveway all day and then sleep with it in the van overnight, 'so he can drink alcohol' which I think is ridiculous. We have our own boxing day plans and dont really want him blocking us in with is van and coming in and out in the morning for the kitchen and bathroom especially as he's supposed to be staying with SIL. And its not exactly great for a dog to be stuck in a van all day with no light.

We have our own dogs who we've put a lot of effort in to training them to behave and have always respected other people when they have a no dog policy - they're our responsibility so why should anyone else have to put up with them if they don't want to? So we expect the same from FIL. We happily welcome other peoples dogs in to our house on the condition that they behave which 99% of the time they do. I just don't want to be cleaning dog piss off my carpets whilst trying to make christmas happen. SIL is basically fighting FIL's corner to bring the dog and making us feel like we're being difficult.

The obvious answer to the dog problem would be for SIL to host Christmas, which we have politely suggested and said we would still cook. It turns out SIL and SILH 'have to' have Christmas at ours because SILH is rota-ed to work on Christmas day but doesn't want to so we need to have it at ours because if we have it at their house, which is closer to other people who live on the estate, everyone will know he's ducking off his shift and he'll get in to (more) trouble with management. The problem is H is a supervisor and SILH is not, so they have put us in a really awkward position where if we get caught my hub will go down too for knowing he's bunking off. We don't think H should have to take risks with his job because of them, we could lose our house and everything. And worse, they weren't even up front with us about why they insisted we host (again) until we said we'd had enough of the dog. I feel a bit like they've tried to trick us in to being their scapegoats.

I feel like the lot of them are completely out of order and they're making us feel like we're being the difficult ones. H and I want to just say we're having Christmas on our own because it's getting too ridiculous but before we could say anything they messaged to say they had bought Christmas dinner (which will probably be out of date by the 25th?!) so I feel they've done this to blackmail us a bit. Are we being unreasonable at this point to say we've had enough and wont be hosting?

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Brefugee · 04/12/2020 12:26

Just tell them you will have the Christmas you want, at home with your DH and they can do what they want but it won't be at yours.

TheDowagerDuchess · 04/12/2020 12:29

Just say, oh what a shame, we have decided we are going to have Christmas on our own. A shame you didn’t check first before buying but all the more for you I guess!

TheBumbleNums · 04/12/2020 12:32

They are being a bit wanky to be honest. You’ve hosted and paid for them two years on the trot, tell them it’s their turn to host or you will please yourselves and they’re not invited. Also tell SILH he’s being a selfish idiot for planning on bunking off and making this fact known to DH, who could potentially get into trouble for it!

Hoppinggreen · 04/12/2020 12:33

Just tell them you are having xmas just the 2 of you this year
They sound like a bloody nightmare

liveitwell · 04/12/2020 12:33

They've bought all of Xmas dinner now?! That's way too early for the veg and probably the meat too if not frozen.

That's their problem, they should have checked.

Cancel it. Do your own thing. Stick up for yourselves.

Soubriquet · 04/12/2020 12:34

Tbh, I couldn’t be doing with all that hassle and I would be having a quiet Christmas at home just with dh

Especially if the husband is bunking off work

TheDowagerDuchess · 04/12/2020 12:37

The husband bunking off would be an absolute no, whatever the other reasons. But with the dog and all the other jazz I really couldn’t be arsed either!

BluebellsGreenbells · 04/12/2020 12:37

SIL is basically fighting FIL's corner to bring the dog and making us feel like we're being difficult

Because she doesn’t want it in her house having to clean up.

They are taking the piss (literally)

Say you’ve decided a quite Christmas is best and each so their own thing.

TheDowagerDuchess · 04/12/2020 12:39

COVID is the perfect excuse anyway!

Sh05 · 04/12/2020 12:44

Yup I agree with everyone else so no point in this reply really!
Definitely just say you are doing your own thing and leave them to do theirs.
You also need to point out the obvious risks to your husband's job and the fact you are not best pleased that they would even think of putting you in such a risky position

Crystal87 · 04/12/2020 12:48

Tell them you're having Xmas with just you and DH. The rest can sort themselves out. Who can be arsed with all this?

AryaStarkWolf · 04/12/2020 12:49

The cheek of the lot of them, have Christmas on your own

MariaK91 · 04/12/2020 12:50

Thank you so much everyone for your replies. It is encouraging to know other peoples opinions are aligning with our own. It has made me feel a lot more confident about handling the situation! Though I'm still scared of the inevitable drama that is going to come out of us ditching Christmas!

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TragedyHands · 04/12/2020 12:50

Tell them to do what they want, all of them. As you and dh are having a quiet christmas just the two of you.
Let them cook for themselves for once, cf.

Piffle11 · 04/12/2020 12:54

The downside (so to speak) of having Christmas at someone else’s home is that you have to accept their traditions and house rules: eg no pets, different food at a different time, present opening traditions ... etc. But the plus side is that someone else is doing most - if not all - of the work. Your ILS seem to want the best of both worlds: none of the planning and hassle, none of the work, no expense, and they still expect to dictate the terms. Tell the lot of them to stay away, and don’t give in to emotional blackmail.

NoSquirrels · 04/12/2020 12:54

Oh dear - another family with unreasonable relatives who might need to develop a strategic cough a couple of days pre-Christmas when it will be hard to get a test... Wink

Or just let your DH tell them no. They sound horrid.

Cocomarine · 04/12/2020 12:54

Who cares whether they’re lying about buying Xmas dinner or not? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Emotional manipulation only works if you choose to let it. Ignore that.

“Brother, if you’re lying to work, don’t you fucking dare risk my job and home too - you’re not coming.”

“Father, are you fucking joking about your dog? I always have to scrub it’s piss out of my carpets. It’s not coming in.”

Your husband seriously needs to grow some balls.

Grenlei · 04/12/2020 12:56

There are many things I'd do for family at Christmas, but clearing up someone else's dogs piss and shit all day is not one of them. Tell them to fuck off you're not hosting, and have a lovely Christmas with just you, DH and your own pets!

LH1987 · 04/12/2020 12:57

Firstly, you are definitely not being unreasonable! More importantly, what the hell have they bought?? Maybe a load of Aunt Bessies bags of frozen roast stuff?

Have a nice low key Christmas with DH, it’s what I’m doing for the first year ever and I couldn’t be more excited.

ScrapThatThen · 04/12/2020 12:57

Yeah just say oh it has all got too complicated and doesn't suit us. As we have hosted in previous years we will just do our own thing this year without feeling bad. Sorry x has to work, I'm no good at keeping secrets and don't want to be part of any subterfuge.

AhoyMeFarties · 04/12/2020 13:07

Bloody hell, they have no regard for you or your husband do they. I would seize this opportunity to end these arrangements permanently
I wouldn't give a shit if they got upset.

SeaSunMoon · 04/12/2020 13:10

Have Christmas on your own! You really can’t risk your DH’s livelihood and your home in the current environment!

SeaSunMoon · 04/12/2020 13:11

And there no way your FIL will sleep in the van, he’ll say “I’ll sleep in the sore room as it’s cold and I’m in now”

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2020 13:11

Other people have been buying food expecting YOU to cook it without properly consulting you?

Its quite simple. You are not having Christmas Dinner with everyone else at your house because you don't want the stress and work it involves and think its unfair you do it every year.

If anyone has a problem with that, they are free to host it at their house instead and if thats not to their liking, then tough.

Do not enter into negotiations.

Chloemol · 04/12/2020 13:11

Just tell them that you are having Christmas on your own and it’s up to them what they do. And stick to it every time they bring it up

And your H needs to tell SILH to do the shift as required or he will have to report as a supervisor as he wants to keep his job