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Christmas is cancelled

142 replies

MariaK91 · 04/12/2020 12:23

My husband and I are housed through my partners job on a large estate. My SIL and husband are also housed on the same estate as my husband and SILH work together.

So, H and I have hosted and done all the cooking for my SIL, SILH and FIL for the past two years and paid for the bulk of it too. It's a lot of hard work. Whenever my FIL comes over he brings his little dog over and it attacks my cats and goes to the toilet on the floor, runs all over the furniture and FIL doesn't do so much as lift a finger to control it or clean up after it (or even apologise for the trouble!) so this year we've said he cant bring it. He's refusing to put it in a kennel, or leave it at my SIL house which is 2 minutes drive so SILH/H can easily check on the it while they're out on shift. FIL said he'll leave dog in his van on our driveway all day and then sleep with it in the van overnight, 'so he can drink alcohol' which I think is ridiculous. We have our own boxing day plans and dont really want him blocking us in with is van and coming in and out in the morning for the kitchen and bathroom especially as he's supposed to be staying with SIL. And its not exactly great for a dog to be stuck in a van all day with no light.

We have our own dogs who we've put a lot of effort in to training them to behave and have always respected other people when they have a no dog policy - they're our responsibility so why should anyone else have to put up with them if they don't want to? So we expect the same from FIL. We happily welcome other peoples dogs in to our house on the condition that they behave which 99% of the time they do. I just don't want to be cleaning dog piss off my carpets whilst trying to make christmas happen. SIL is basically fighting FIL's corner to bring the dog and making us feel like we're being difficult.

The obvious answer to the dog problem would be for SIL to host Christmas, which we have politely suggested and said we would still cook. It turns out SIL and SILH 'have to' have Christmas at ours because SILH is rota-ed to work on Christmas day but doesn't want to so we need to have it at ours because if we have it at their house, which is closer to other people who live on the estate, everyone will know he's ducking off his shift and he'll get in to (more) trouble with management. The problem is H is a supervisor and SILH is not, so they have put us in a really awkward position where if we get caught my hub will go down too for knowing he's bunking off. We don't think H should have to take risks with his job because of them, we could lose our house and everything. And worse, they weren't even up front with us about why they insisted we host (again) until we said we'd had enough of the dog. I feel a bit like they've tried to trick us in to being their scapegoats.

I feel like the lot of them are completely out of order and they're making us feel like we're being the difficult ones. H and I want to just say we're having Christmas on our own because it's getting too ridiculous but before we could say anything they messaged to say they had bought Christmas dinner (which will probably be out of date by the 25th?!) so I feel they've done this to blackmail us a bit. Are we being unreasonable at this point to say we've had enough and wont be hosting?

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MinnieMountain · 04/12/2020 13:12

If they’re so desperate to spend Christmas together, why don’t they host on Christmas Eve?

IntermittentParps · 04/12/2020 13:15

They're cunts, they can't handle their dog and they'd likely give you all food poisoning if you ate the stuff they've bought.

Tell em no and lock the door.

cabingirl · 04/12/2020 13:19

Tell them that they can host an early Christmas Dinner the weekend before Christmas Day at their house with FIL and his dog and you will come over and help cook etc.

Then on Christmas Day itself, everyone can please themselves. FIL can have his dog inside either his house or SIL. SILH can go to work or bunk off and you and DH won't have to know anything about it.

ReturntoSpamfritters · 04/12/2020 13:21

No is a complete sentence. Definitely lock the door and pretend not to be in if they come round.

Youseethethingis · 04/12/2020 13:21

Why are you scared of the drama? You don’t have to give them house space or headspace, the worst they can do is stop taking to you in a huff, and I’d think the longer they stay in a huff with you the better!
Twats.

Chimeraforce · 04/12/2020 13:23

Do you your own thing.

wildraisins · 04/12/2020 13:23

Jeez. They sound manipulative and horrible. Don't have them round, just do what you wanna do.

Quaagars · 04/12/2020 13:24

Isn't this year the perfect excuse for not getting together anyway?!
Sounds like a stressful nightmare and they shouldn't be putting your DH's job at risk anyway, he's best out of it and not getting involved!
Blame the 'rona, you've decided you want a quiet Christmas this year, just the two of you.

Tell them that they can host an early Christmas Dinner the weekend before Christmas Day at their house with FIL and his dog and you will come over and help cook etc

Depending on where you are you can't do that, against rules and all that (definitely a no no in most of England right now anyway!)

JingsMahBucket · 04/12/2020 13:27

@Chloemol

Just tell them that you are having Christmas on your own and it’s up to them what they do. And stick to it every time they bring it up

And your H needs to tell SILH to do the shift as required or he will have to report as a supervisor as he wants to keep his job

The second paragraph is a good strategy @Chloemol. @MariaK91 I was actually concerned that if you refused to host that your SILH might try to browbeat or blackmail your husband about him knowing the SILH was going to play hooky from work. If your husband lets SILH know now that he won’t be party to the lie, that may staunch any further bad actions.
Ginfordinner · 04/12/2020 13:28

Definitely do not host Christmas at yours. I'm unclear about the food. Are they expecting you to cook it?

I agree that you and your husband should just tell everyone that you have decided to do Christmas on your own this year. It sounds like the others have been taking you for granted.

Does the SILH report to your DH?

Viviennemary · 04/12/2020 13:28

You're not up to hosting this year at your house. End of. Always the way with these entitled folk. You're the awkward one for not going along with their plans.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 04/12/2020 13:29

JUST SAY NO

ShellieEllie · 04/12/2020 13:33

CFs, all 3 of them!

MusicWithRocksIn1t · 04/12/2020 13:37

Big fat no

HullabalooToo · 04/12/2020 13:37

Just say something vague about being glad they’re organised, you are too and you will be happy to meet up for something else before / after Christmas to exchange presents. Say it like you know they aren’t coming and think they’re thinking the same. If they push it just act confused and say ‘err, no...like we said...’ etc.

cabingirl · 04/12/2020 13:39

@Quaagars

Isn't this year the perfect excuse for not getting together anyway?! Sounds like a stressful nightmare and they shouldn't be putting your DH's job at risk anyway, he's best out of it and not getting involved! Blame the 'rona, you've decided you want a quiet Christmas this year, just the two of you.

Tell them that they can host an early Christmas Dinner the weekend before Christmas Day at their house with FIL and his dog and you will come over and help cook etc

Depending on where you are you can't do that, against rules and all that (definitely a no no in most of England right now anyway!)

Ah - am not in the UK so didn't know when the Christmas Bubble started - then do it on Christmas Eve or the Sunday after Christmas is they need someone to help them cook all the food they've bought so early.
TimeIhadaNameChange · 04/12/2020 13:43

Isn't it great they've got dinner in, they can host FIL and leave you out of it.

Anydreamwilldo12 · 04/12/2020 13:44

Stick to your guns and tell them you will not be hosting this year. It's all about them, they don't care about your feelings in the matter.

BuntysTwinkle · 04/12/2020 13:45

FIL said he'll leave dog in his van on our driveway all day and then sleep with it in the van overnight, 'so he can drink alcohol' which I think is ridiculous.

Why even visit? With those miserable caveats he'd be better off staying home.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 04/12/2020 13:46

There aren't many upsides to The Covid Shitshow but being able to get out of things you don't want to do more easily has got to be one of them.

"Sorry, due to the circs we're just having Christmas with us and the dog. Have a lovely day, whatever you decide to do!"

Osquito · 04/12/2020 13:49

@MariaK91
Good luck, and enjoy a lovely Christmas with your DH :)

Holothane · 04/12/2020 13:56

COVID no other excuse needed your staying home no one is coming, so you’ll see to yourselves this year.

MariaK91 · 04/12/2020 13:58

@Ginfordinner

Definitely do not host Christmas at yours. I'm unclear about the food. Are they expecting you to cook it?

I agree that you and your husband should just tell everyone that you have decided to do Christmas on your own this year. It sounds like the others have been taking you for granted.

Does the SILH report to your DH?

They've bought the food for us to cook. SILH doesn't report to DH (thankfully) but SILH's manager does report to the same manager as DH, so their departments overlap quite significantly. DH couldn't really get away with claiming ignorance. Especially seeing as SILH idiotically sent his plans to bunk off his Christmas shift to DH's work phone.
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Sherin18 · 04/12/2020 14:04

Do not have them over, especially if it could cause your DH to be in trouble at work. Just tell them no, lock your door and enjoy Christmas

CharityEscapeGoat · 04/12/2020 14:05

Tell them no. No, no, and no. You don't want to get involved or know anything about any if them bunking off work. And if asked by work, you'll be telling the truth, because you value your income & housing. And they need to decide the same.

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