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Christmas is cancelled

142 replies

MariaK91 · 04/12/2020 12:23

My husband and I are housed through my partners job on a large estate. My SIL and husband are also housed on the same estate as my husband and SILH work together.

So, H and I have hosted and done all the cooking for my SIL, SILH and FIL for the past two years and paid for the bulk of it too. It's a lot of hard work. Whenever my FIL comes over he brings his little dog over and it attacks my cats and goes to the toilet on the floor, runs all over the furniture and FIL doesn't do so much as lift a finger to control it or clean up after it (or even apologise for the trouble!) so this year we've said he cant bring it. He's refusing to put it in a kennel, or leave it at my SIL house which is 2 minutes drive so SILH/H can easily check on the it while they're out on shift. FIL said he'll leave dog in his van on our driveway all day and then sleep with it in the van overnight, 'so he can drink alcohol' which I think is ridiculous. We have our own boxing day plans and dont really want him blocking us in with is van and coming in and out in the morning for the kitchen and bathroom especially as he's supposed to be staying with SIL. And its not exactly great for a dog to be stuck in a van all day with no light.

We have our own dogs who we've put a lot of effort in to training them to behave and have always respected other people when they have a no dog policy - they're our responsibility so why should anyone else have to put up with them if they don't want to? So we expect the same from FIL. We happily welcome other peoples dogs in to our house on the condition that they behave which 99% of the time they do. I just don't want to be cleaning dog piss off my carpets whilst trying to make christmas happen. SIL is basically fighting FIL's corner to bring the dog and making us feel like we're being difficult.

The obvious answer to the dog problem would be for SIL to host Christmas, which we have politely suggested and said we would still cook. It turns out SIL and SILH 'have to' have Christmas at ours because SILH is rota-ed to work on Christmas day but doesn't want to so we need to have it at ours because if we have it at their house, which is closer to other people who live on the estate, everyone will know he's ducking off his shift and he'll get in to (more) trouble with management. The problem is H is a supervisor and SILH is not, so they have put us in a really awkward position where if we get caught my hub will go down too for knowing he's bunking off. We don't think H should have to take risks with his job because of them, we could lose our house and everything. And worse, they weren't even up front with us about why they insisted we host (again) until we said we'd had enough of the dog. I feel a bit like they've tried to trick us in to being their scapegoats.

I feel like the lot of them are completely out of order and they're making us feel like we're being the difficult ones. H and I want to just say we're having Christmas on our own because it's getting too ridiculous but before we could say anything they messaged to say they had bought Christmas dinner (which will probably be out of date by the 25th?!) so I feel they've done this to blackmail us a bit. Are we being unreasonable at this point to say we've had enough and wont be hosting?

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pam290358 · 05/12/2020 17:44

I would suddenly have to self isolate from Xmas eve onwards !!!!

divafever99 · 05/12/2020 18:25

Sorry I've not read the full thread op, but I hope you have cancelled. Just reading your post sounds exhausting!! Please put you and your family first .

tommyhoundmum · 05/12/2020 18:30

Just reading about your predicament makes me feel angry that anyone could treat you like this.

Refuse to feel guilty and enjoy your own family Christmas. Let them say what they like.

Jack80 · 05/12/2020 18:54

Can you not go to father in laws or have christmas as your family and see each other another day for a meal

Hmm1234 · 05/12/2020 19:03

Dogs come as part of the family. Can it go in your garden? Or keep them in the kitchen with the door shut? Seems so mean and yes I understand having a chihuahua and staffy that go from being the best of friends to fighting over who gets the most attention.

Owl55 · 05/12/2020 19:18

Let her host , tell her you are having a quiet Christmas but will pop in for an hour after lunch to say happy Christmas

DilyteGelyte · 05/12/2020 19:21

Family is family, there's always some drama each family have to deal with. I personally would find a polite way of saying that because we hosted and cooked for the last two years it would be nice if other family members would host the festivities this year. I'd tell if it's awkward to do it at their house because of the job or whatever, I'd be happy for them to cook at ours, but untrained dogs are not welcome, maybe SIL and her H could agree to keep the dog. This way everyone have something to compromise . Don't think they actually have "dinner" sorted yet, perhaps just a frozen turkey sitting in their freezer, so don't worry about that and don't even comment on it.

TwitchetyWitcheryWooWoo · 05/12/2020 19:28

Would thank them kindly for buying Christmas dinner and ask what time you should arrive at their house to eat it. Not unreasonable to infer that if they have bought it they will then be cooking it and serving it at their house.
Alternative is to say that with all the stuff around COVID you just want to have a quiet Christmas on your own.

FelicisNox · 05/12/2020 20:38

YANBU and your DH shouldn't be in a position where he could lose his job and house because of them.

Get all of them over ASAP and tell them that you will be spending it on your own and why. Then tell them you won't be blackmailed into hosting, you won't be putting up with naughty dogs anymore, you won't be blocked in on boxing day and you won't be brought into their dishonesty and will deny all knowledge if anyone gets caught for skiving.... the words here are "plausible deniability".

Enough is enough. Deal with them and don't make excuses. Start as you mean to go on.

Vinomummyinlockdown · 05/12/2020 21:25

Eff me. It’s covid. Haven’t seen my family in a year. No one seems to abide by anything and I read this stuff and just think 🙄🙄🙄

PerveenMistry · 05/12/2020 22:58

@Vinomummyinlockdown

Eff me. It’s covid. Haven’t seen my family in a year. No one seems to abide by anything and I read this stuff and just think 🙄🙄🙄

Same here. It's really reprehensible.

No one should have any problem declining to gather for holidays. No excuses.

Mamanyt · 05/12/2020 23:38

You and your husband have the Christmas you want, which includes, FOR GOD'S SAKE, just a bit of peace on earth with no dog pissing on the carpet and terrifying the cats, and no drunk FIL in the driveway (possibly pissing on the plants). Tell the whole milling mass of them that you have decided to keep a very quiet Christmas this year, and you know it won't be too horrible for them as they have already bought food to fix at their home. The very best Christmas of my life was when my father and I finally convinced my mother to stay home rather than leaping in the car right after breakfast to drive the 4 hours to her family's home.

Sallylovesdaisy · 05/12/2020 23:40

Wait til a week from Christmas then tell them you have to self isolate. Easy peasy

Insanelysilver · 06/12/2020 02:13

I don’t think you are being unreasonable but just to avoid any family drama as a result, could you maybe use a stair gate to keep FIL’s dog down stairs in a down stairs area that’s got hard floors so it’s not so much of a problem?Or an upstairs room that’s not carpeted?

Sammyclaire22 · 06/12/2020 05:23

I would just say you've hosted at least the last two Christmases so this year (maybe lay on some extra covid stress points) you wanted a quieter one, either one of the others host or you will have it just with dh. Then it's their decision. Either way they will be cooking either for all of you or themselves so their food they have bought won't go to waste.

As for the bil, your dh needs to address this via work if it's likely he will get in trouble already. It's not fair of them to involve you guys in their deception, and it sounds like if him skiving is potentially hazardous to the general job then the bil needs to take more responsibility about his role. I like the previous comment about dh telling him via work he needs to apply for annual leave. Bunking off and informing him of his plan to do so isn't an appropriate work ethic. My dh works most Christmases and its rubbish but we work around it, I've finally got my Inlaws to agree to us doing a family Christmas day on Christmas eve as otherwise we would have no time with our daughter just us by the time he's back this year. I call it a festive period rather than focusing onndoing it all on one day itself which isn't always practical. If it's such a deal for your sil to have a family altogther meal then maybe suggest she hosts it a different day.

As a dog owner myself, I would never insist on my dog coming with me. The fil can leave it at home and get a taxi, or if that's too far then offer to walk it to the sils house yourself next time you have them over. It's not fair for them to put their animals high in priority but then not expect you to do the same with your own animals. Granted it sounds like this is an ongoing issue. One phrase I like is no is a sentence all on its own! Next time fil visits say the dog isn't welcome. No explaining needed. Who cares if they grumble and make comments, they sound like they will whatever you do!

josbd · 06/12/2020 10:48

If there is any fall-out, you have to be strong, and let them get on with it. Frankly. from the sounds of things none of them will be missed, so let the sulking carry on!

Smurf52 · 06/12/2020 14:44

Stick to your guns and tell the rest of the family they can choose to do whatever they want - but it will NOT be at your house. Covid is a good excuse this year for not meeting with selfish family members. Maybe develop your own cough a few days before the event! Good luck, dodge/ignore all the flack and enjoy your quiet Christmas at home 👍👍 🎄🎄🎄

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