Carrie Bradshaw - A CF, right?

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She's a pretty self-obsessed shit friend, but a CF too, right?

I rewatched an episode the other day where she needed to buy her apartment and she expected Charlotte to sell her engagement ring to fund the purchase

I reckon if SATC were real, Miranda or Charlotte would be on MN gushing about their best friend being incredible and everyone would be calling Carrie a CF and advising them to go NC.

To the PP who doesn't like Steve - I agree! What an awful man child!

We wont mention the Russian. That was Candce Bushells real story.

Obviously the best guy in it was Harry, Charlottes husband

SATC was 80% naff and 20% gold. Remember the best man Carrie shagged before Harry and Charlotte's wedding, he was like a Jack rabbit (we've all had one of them!) and he said "If i thought you were just using me I wouldn't have made love to you like that" brilliant!! This thread makes me want to watch it all again. Not series 1 though when they break the 4th wall

That night when The Russian says please leave me to work tonight I have to finish my art in time for an exhibition and she piles all her mates round tipsy on cocktails to show off him and his amazing apartment and he’s all polite but obviously pissed off and ‘Carrie I told you I was working tonight’ and she’s all pouty and going ‘but I wanted you to meet my friends!’ Like a five year old

Obviously the best guy in it was Harry, Charlottes husband
Without a doubt he was brilliant.

Why is it whenever Charlotte, Carrie or Samantha met a man it was always a Wall Street banker, famous painter and male model? They weren't from high profile Park Avenue families so it's not like they moved in those circles. It was never Kev the plumber, or Bob the barista was it

They weren't from high profile Park Avenue families so it's not like they moved in those circles
They did work in those sectors so would easily move in those circles. Miranda a lawyer Samantha running a pr company Charlotte was mc working in an art gallery.

Miranda's husband Steve was a bartender when they met though. He only co-owned a bar eventually because Aiden stumped up the cash.
Yes, I am over invested in SATC!

Another one that hasn't aged well (though maybe better than SATC) is Friends. How awful is Ross!? He moons over Rachel, finally gets with her, gets insanely jealous when she gets a new job, accuses her of cheating, then cheats himself. He's so controlling it's horrible to watch back.

And don't get me started on Joey. Just the general sexism really stands out. Also the whiteness of every character and extra for the first few seasons. It's New York ffs!

But yes, Carrie a CF.

There’s a podcast about SATC and they talk about Charlotte’s engagement ring. It really polarised the writers and actors on whether it was okay or not.

I love that Kim refused to do a 3rd film and they couldn’t make it without her (I think they tried to go ahead with her character being dead) but she was too popular.

I hated them trying to make Carrie some intellectual who didn’t want a TV in her apartment and wanted to read poetry. Fuck off.

I’ve rewatched Girls a few times and I like it more with rewatching. They are also narcissistic but they fuck up their lives with terrible decisions.

They weren't from high profile Park Avenue families so it's not like they moved in those circles

That’s rather the point, though. They are aspirational people who have all moved to New York in order to move in those circles and meet some definition of success. Charlotte is from a fairly posh WASP background but the others are not. They are in high profile careers in which they mix with wealthy people, and apart from Samantha they are all keen to snag a wealthy man, although Miranda eventually cops on to the fact that she doesn’t really need one.

The book was about the coldness and transactional nature of the dating scene in New York and that was the focus of the first few series of SATC, along with the female friendship that the book didn’t really deal with. I thought that they made a decent job of showing us that the four female characters set their sights on eg Wall Street bankers or other men that would be deemed desirable on paper, but who turned out to be awful in real life.

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I hated them trying to make Carrie some intellectual who didn’t want a TV in her apartment and wanted to read poetry. Fuck off.

Yes! When she was talking to some guy (a photographer?) about how much she loved models and she said "when I first moved to New York I sometimes had to chose between food and Vogue. I bought Vogue; I just felt like it fed me more." Please fuck off you pretentious twat, nobody would do that; you need food to live.

I'm also here for the Steve hate. He has some nerve cheating on Miranda! She gave him everything: a house in Brooklyn, a child, she wouldn't let him get the dangerously untested testicle implant, she cared for his ill mother, but then he cheated on her because she didn't want to shag his brains out every day. He's a waste of space and he made Miranda's life harder than it needed to be. Dr Robert would have treated her right.

I loved S&TC and confess I still like it as comfort tv! But my god yes Carrie was an arsehole! When I first watched I thought Big was awful to her but actually no, he was completely honest with her.

Worse Carrie bits - when she blew Miranda out to have veal with Big, when she sent Aiden to gather a naked Miranda up from her bathroom floor and when she wanted Miranda to come on a trip with them and Miranda said she couldn't go cos of newborn Brady, Carrie says "just throw some money at the problem" (get Magda to babysit) I thought that was awful! As well as Miranda breastfeeding and Cartie getting the arse cos she wasn't fully focused on her! So many examples you've all given.

However she redeemed herself when she ran to Miranda on NYE in the film to tell her she wasn't alone.

I still love it - there's a good podcast called So I Got To Thinking where they watch each episode and see if Carrie's questions are still relevant today. Mostly not

I couldn't bear Carrie, she was a terrible friend, and very selfish. I liked Charlotte or Miranda most, though they were flawed. I thought everybody like Carrie most until I clicked on an internet poll some years ago, I think she came out last after Samantha.

The scene I most cringed at was where Carrie went to Big's wedding, to someone else, and reenacted a scene from the Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand film. She called Big over, swept his hair to the side of his face and said 'Your girl is lovely, Hubbell'. Big was understandably confused.

Yes! When she was talking to some guy (a photographer?) about how much she loved models and she said "when I first moved to New York I sometimes had to chose between food and Vogue. I bought Vogue; I just felt like it fed me more." Please fuck off you pretentious twat, nobody would do that; you need food to live.

That's really made me laugh, I'd totally forgotten that. That is possibly the most ridiculous and pretentious thing I've ever heard someone say.

I think Liz Jones said something similar to that in her column, about inhaling Vogue rather than eat, or at least quoted Carrie.

She’s a bit of a knob too 😂

'Your girl is lovely, Hubbell'.

That is hilarious, too. Can you imagine the MN thread: "Ex is getting married tomorrow and I feel like it's a bit like the film "the way we were" (so I don't get accused of drip feeding she's got straight hair and I've got curly hair) Thinking of going to his wedding tomorrow, telling him his girl looks lovely and calling him Hubbell. AIBU?

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The scene I most cringed at was where Carrie went to Big's wedding, to someone else, and reenacted a scene from the Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand film. She called Big over, swept his hair to the side of his face and said 'Your girl is lovely, Hubbell'. Big was understandably confused.

Haha then walked away, curls blowing in the wind, musing about how she couldn't be tamed (when in fact she was desperate to marry Big, so desperate in fact that she still did even after he jilted her the first time!)

I know it was cheesy the Hubbel bit but bloody hell when he told her he was engaged over lunch have none of you ever, ever been there? I dont know, myself and my friends could pick out quite alot of the storylines and relate to them. Obviously with out the glamour but deffowith the cocktails. I still love that pink wrap dress she had on during that lunch. SJP certainly wears clothes well.

Oh god and going out with a moody bloke who loved Sinatra? That would be me. Maybe I am Carrie😂😂😂😂.

I hated that she got with him at the end. That was the most unrealistic bit of all.

Some episodes were very relatable.
CB had terrible insecure taste in men.
I thought the episode when Harry and Charlotte got food poisoning was brilliant.

I need to rewatch SATC now!

The pilot episode (so series 1, episode 1) is quite different to the rest of the series. Don’t think they had quite nailed the hair and clothes at that point, plus the focus is other people’s stories: the British woman who moves to Manhattan, meets an American man, is swept off her feet and thinks she is going to marry him before he drops her like a stone to ‘date’ somebody else, thus showing the cruelty of the New York dating scene, and Stanford’s dating adventures.