To be amazed they've released Mairead Philpott?

[MarylinMonrue]

After serving half her sentence for the arson attack? Apparently even a source from the prison was a shocked at the leniency and the fact she's going to get a new identity and protection. Six children in that fire - is there such a thing as justice in this country anymore?

I don’t know enough about exactly what she did to comment.

An abused, vulnerable woman with learning disabilities. What she did was hideous, bit but the worst of the pair.

I am not sure how old she is, but hopefully too old to fall in with another bullying no hoper and have yet more children. I also think that she is stupid enough to go back to Derby, and will not understand what protected identity means.

Mairead was in my opinion abused and worn down over years and years to accept what he said and did and told her to say and do. Many many women sadly do the same, and while she should take some personal responsibility too, mental and emotional abuse is a funny thing.

The mental and emotional abuse is key to her being released. Glad it is now being recognised upfront for what it is and how it hurts people.

'don't think she was 'worn down'. I think she was abused and groomed.'

Maybe and some things are understandable, neglect etc, but plotting and assisting with arson and murder?!

Awful. But she has to live with what she has done.

Hmm, not sure that means anything. She supported her husband, who killed her children. She hardly had a fucking conscience.

I don’t doubt she was an abused woman- Mick Philpott seemed to prey on vulnerable girls and young women and he met her when she was a single teenage mum I believe. His mistress (the brave woman who got away with him and took her children with her) was a teenage orphan and single mum when they met.

But. Mairead Philpott agreed to help start a fire with her kids in the house. Even if she honestly thought they would all get out alive she was prepared to take the risk and even if the children had been rescued in time the damage to them and the fear they’d have gone through doesn’t bear thinking about. She cared more about her absolute cunt of a husband than she did about her 6 children.

She was in an abusive relationship and she has low IQ.

Not defending her actions but...

The woman clearly has significant additional needs and intellectual disabilities.

While I don't believe she's a victim per se, neither do I believe she's a cold-blooded sociopathic killer, and the role of the legal system is to find the middle ground between what she did and why she did it.

"She lauded him like a king, and had probably never had many positive male role models to compare him too sadly"

So now you need a positive male role model to not kill your kids. Fucking hell. Raise the bar a bit

'She was in an abusive relationship and she has low IQ.'

Why do people keep saying this. So what. She will have known right from wrong and more importantly that her dc were at great risk. Why do some women put a man before their kids.

I actually feel really sorry for her. Mick was an extremely violent bully. If you see what he did to his past girlfriends you can see the sort of man she was living with.
He raped and abused her daily. He used to share her with his friends.
I don't think she wanted to go through with the plan. He coerced her into. She was a vulnerable woman with learning difficulties. If she didn't go ahead with the plan he would have probably beat her senseless. She didn't agree to him killing the children. He convinced her the plan was safe and for a better future.
He even made her give sexual favours to his mate after.
In their life together she was so controlled abused by him that she even let him have kids with another woman and move them in.
I feel for her. She has been beaten, raped and abused for years and has lost all her children.

It's just appalling. Watched a documentary about them on YouTube the other night and then went to google the Philpotts and discovered she was being released this month.

All this 'she was abused/worn down/controlled by her husband' is a load of excusing bollocks. She knew he was starting a fire in a house where her six kids slept upstairs. She may not have lit the match or come up with the idea but she is just as to blame as him and should have been locked up for life.

Why do people keep saying this. So what. She will have known right from wrong and more importantly that her dc were at great risk. Why do some women put a man before their kids.*

I agree with this. “She’s a bit thick” isn’t a defence. And her appeal saying she was under his control failed.

she has low IQ.

She has enough to know right from wrong. She was bringing up children for goodness sake. The idea that learning disabilities excuse this type of thing is awful and wouldn't be getting posted if she were a man. What a crock of shit.

If she was able to live in specialty and raise children she was able to know what was right and what was wrong. Fuck excusing her.

*live in SOCIETY

@myhobbyisouting

"She lauded him like a king, and had probably never had many positive male role models to compare him too sadly"

So now you need a positive male role model to not kill your kids. Fucking hell. Raise the bar a bit

She did not plan to kill her kids. It was an awful plan thought out by Mick. She did not have much of a choice but to go through with it. The fact she had low IQ/learning difficulties and was vulnerable is a major factor in her decision making.

YANBU. She should have been in there until she took her last breath.
Im sorry no matter how much I was in fear of a bloke. He couldn't get me on board touching A hair on any child's head. Let alone killing my own. There's no excuse at all.

@lovelovelove2020

I actually feel really sorry for her. Mick was an extremely violent bully. If you see what he did to his past girlfriends you can see the sort of man she was living with. He raped and abused her daily. He used to share her with his friends. I don't think she wanted to go through with the plan. He coerced her into. She was a vulnerable woman with learning difficulties. If she didn't go ahead with the plan he would have probably beat her senseless. She didn't agree to him killing the children. He convinced her the plan was safe and for a better future. He even made her give sexual favours to his mate after. In their life together she was so controlled abused by him that she even let him have kids with another woman and move them in. I feel for her. She has been beaten, raped and abused for years and has lost all her children.

She's vile. She went along with a plot to torch their house with her own kids upstairs. She might not have been the brightest spark but I'm pretty sure anyone over the age of 6 knows a fire inside a house is going to be dangerous. Sorry but no amount of abuse she went through can excuse her for that.

That's just my opinion, of course.

It's the Law. She received a sentence in accordance with what the Law states is appropriate for the crime she was found guilty of

This. We cannot bring emotion into it or dictate that some lives are worth more than others. Whether you like it or not, the law is the law.

She did not plan to kill her kids. It was an awful plan thought out by Mick. She did not have much of a choice but to go through with it.

The police, CPS and jury thought otherwise, didn’t they? ‘Not much of a choice’ means someone is forcing you, not pressuring you.