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Do you find this offensive?

610 replies

Besswess88 · 28/11/2020 09:09

Someone posted this in a group I am in, and I find it really offensive AIBU?!

OP posts:
keffie12 · 29/11/2020 21:53

Its pathetic and childish! Offensive! No! I would just ignore it. If your asked about it then say what you need to carefully. Otherwise take it as a learning curve where this person is concerned and don't fratonise with them

Besswess88 · 29/11/2020 21:55

@NoPainNoTartine

Yes I am following the “fashion” of not wanting to look at misogynistic material 🙄

OP posts:
HTH1 · 29/11/2020 21:57

Not funny, a bit creepy but I find it more meh than seriously offensive.

NiceGerbil · 29/11/2020 22:01

It's only in the workplace and provision of goods that sex is a protected characteristic.

Eg if a colleague looked at your tits and said great pair of melons you could go to hr.

If a man said it to you in the pub then that's ok.

If a man yells it at you from a van then I you might get him on something (but I mean no one reports it cos it's all just good fun innit get s sense of humour) but it wouldn't be a hate thing because sex isn't included. So that aspect wouldn't be taken into account in the same way as someone yelling something crass at someone related to them being black for example .

It's not true you can't say what you like at all. People can and do so all the time. What they can't do is post something like this and women not be allowed to say hold on that's a shit sexist joke.

marktayloruk · 29/11/2020 22:02

We need to.turn the clock back. People should still.laugh at the same things as they did. I'm a fat Billy Bunter fan shortsighted Mr.Magoo fan and sometimes

stammering fan of Open.All.Hours.
I'm currently watching a programme about Dick Emery - someone whose programmes never get repeated because of PC. They should respond to.complaints with the words of BSM Williams - "Oh dear - how sad- never mind."

Tiredwiththeshits · 29/11/2020 22:28

Agree with tasteless but nothing to get wound up by

Mirinska · 29/11/2020 22:44

It’s distasteful, potentially offensive and in this day and age inappropriate. Is the person, if they don’t realise this, worth bothering with tho?

NiceGerbil · 29/11/2020 22:46

Turn the clock back and accept these things are a joking matter then you turn the clock back in general.

The idea that it was 'natural' even funny for men to grab women's breasts was a thing. A 'playful' slap on the arse. Being flashed at in the park should be laughed off because what a pathetic man etc

The humour is an aspect of society. You can't get that humour back and accepted without turning back how these things were thought of in real life.

In my opinion anyway.

NiceGerbil · 29/11/2020 22:53

'I'm currently watching a programme about Dick Emery - someone whose programmes never get repeated because of PC. '

Doesn't the show include any of his sketches?

I don't think he was so bad anyway. Maybe there are other reasons he's not repeated. There's a lot of telly to show.

kimmsutt · 29/11/2020 22:58

I have Blackpool in my veins, so this is type of cartoon is part of my summer holiday memories. Old fashioned, not #MeToo, but harmless.

MRC20 · 29/11/2020 23:01

God what's more depressing than this 'joke' are the amount of women who don't see the issue with it 😭

MeMarmite · 29/11/2020 23:12

@MRC20

God what's more depressing than this 'joke' are the amount of women who don't see the issue with it 😭
Agreed.

Though I do think AIBU is awash with male posters with supposedly female sounding usernames.

Thefirsttime · 29/11/2020 23:15

@MRC20

God what's more depressing than this 'joke' are the amount of women who don't see the issue with it 😭
Yep. Exactly this. I’m quite shocked by the poll result.
Thefirsttime · 29/11/2020 23:18

@Roussillon849

Christ on a frigging bike, some of these responses make me want to weep!

The cartoon is undoubtedly offensive, unacceptable and thoroughly out of place in TWENTY FUCKING TWENTY. Yes, it was acceptable at some point, but it is not anymore, just like so many other things are now wholly unacceptable. It's called progress. There is simply no place at all in modern society for this kind of humour. None whatsoever.

I agree with the OP and others who talk about the underlying attitudes to finding this kind of nonsense OK underpinning the much more serious stuff.

I urge those of you who think "oh, it's OK, it doesn't bother me, it's of its time, I don't get easily offended and can handle it, blah blah blah" to genuinely reflect on the despicably mysoginist attitudes that lie behind this sort of humour. Because misogyny is what it is, pure and simple.

Well said. 👏👏👏
Quaagars · 29/11/2020 23:19

Though I do think AIBU is awash with male posters with supposedly female sounding usernames

Grin Lol, that's right, anyone who disagrees must automatically be a man Hmm Same old MN. Heaven forbid women are allowed an opinion of their own, what on earth do they think they're playing at?! Biscuit Either that or the usual guff about the poor souls have just been brainwashed by the men and can't think for themselves.
ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2020 23:23

It's misogynistic and objectifying.
As to 'offensive' - I can see why it hit a raw nerve with the OP if she has to put up with shit like this IRL. So whether I find it offensive or not isn't really relevant - YANBU OP if you do.

yellowlabrador · 29/11/2020 23:30

Not remotely offensive. But not remotely funny either. I wouldn't be offended as I don't get offended very easily by things, unless they relate directly to me, but we all have our own boundaries.

bagpuss90 · 29/11/2020 23:33

Oh please 🙄

MeMarmite · 29/11/2020 23:42

@Quaagars

Though I do think AIBU is awash with male posters with supposedly female sounding usernames Grin Lol, that's right, anyone who disagrees must automatically be a man Hmm Same old MN. Heaven forbid women are allowed an opinion of their own, what on earth do they think they're playing at?! Biscuit Either that or the usual guff about the poor souls have just been brainwashed by the men and can't think for themselves.
If you don't think AIBU is regularly brigaded by male trolls you must be living under a rock. Have your own biscuit, maybe. Biscuit
Mamanyt · 29/11/2020 23:44

I find it mildly offensive, as I find many things that have their roots in the 1950s, but not something I'd lose sleep over. Nor would I comment on it, at least not beyond, "Well, I see that 10-year-old-boy humor is still alive and far too well!"

NiceGerbil · 29/11/2020 23:54

And relationships especially when any threads related to porn etc come up.

I dunno though I do think a lot of women do feel that way.

I've always been an outlier because I always noticed it and hated it.

In real life it comes out in stuff like. Girls trying to deal with things rather than make a fuss. Feeling like they're wrong to get upset about stuff as it's just lads being lads or whatever.

I got loads of shit when I was young but the one I really remember was going to a bar in a crowded pub and pushing through a hand landed on the front of my crotch from and ran all the way under underneath and up the back of my jeans.

I span around and there were two blokes smirking at me. I had no idea which one it was.

So I went and got the drinks and went back and I was a bit. Dunno. Unsettled. I told 2 of the girls I was with and they said well it happens I mean what can you do. Don't make a fuss we're all out for X birthday it'll spoil it. Forget about it. I mean why are you even thinking about it? It's no big deal.

And that was how it was really. We were supposed to laugh/ put up with. If it was pretty bad maybe say something but that's always risky as you don't know how they will react.

In fact I did stand up for myself a bit more than the others and the girls didn't like it and the men would get quite arsey.

I think that laughing it off is a lot easier than making a fuss/ challenging a man who is a lot bigger than you and has already breached a boundary, TBH.

MeMarmite · 29/11/2020 23:57

Yes. It's dangerous to address it, a lot of the time. Which is why these jokey things are especially pernicious, imo, because it just reinforces the absolute triviality of their trauma. Because being assaulted is traumatic.

Leflic · 30/11/2020 00:10

The question was are you “offended” by it. Not do you have an issue with it though.
The man is looking uncomfortably at a woman’s boobs. He’s not saying or actually doing anything suggestive, he’s not doing anything to the woman. The joke is implied by the woman behind, presumably the wife.

I genuinely can’t see why this is offensive now big breasts don’t have comedy value anymore. Surgery is so accessible nowadays - bigger, smaller it’s not the same when women had no choice.
Breast being compared to melons is as common as testicles and turkey necks and just as meaningless.

Quaagars · 30/11/2020 00:13

If you don't think AIBU is regularly brigaded by male trolls you must be living under a rock

Of course there will be trolls, but there'll be plenty of women on the thread with their own opinions who don't find it offensive.
I'm one of them, and I'm sure there'll be lots more as well.
We're not all men.
I don't find it particularly funny, but I don't find it offensive either.
Just your old fashioned postcard seaside humour.

VenusTiger · 30/11/2020 00:17

When I don't like something I don't give it any of my energy. This taking offence nonsense has got to stop - it's really fucking up society. What you find offensive, the next person might smile and it might just change their day.
Get a life.