Doing this to a child is wrong

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BBC report : His said his 14-year-old daughter had not left her bedroom for four days, with meals being left outside her door, until the family learned the result was void on Thursday

This is so wrong to do to a child

@flaviaritt

Why would you need a gym to exercise?

You don’t. I am saying it is very likely that, since she probably doesn’t have a gym in her room, she spent the time without exercise. You can disagree with this but for me, confining a person to a small room for days (perhaps repeatedly) is likely to have a negative impact on their ability to stay fit and healthy.

Thanks for admitting that you made up even more of the facts. How do you know it's a small room?

Where does it say the room was small?

I mean a room as opposed to having the run of the house. Clearly I don’t know the size of the room. Let’s assume it’s just an average room. It’s not right to confine a child in it for days at a time.

Why would I be suggesting violence? Cory has been vague and disingenuous about whether this was an agreement (fine) or a rule she imposed on her kids (not fine) whether they agreed or not. I haven’t been disingenuous about anything at all.

She said it was a house rule. As I pointed out, in a household with teenagers in, house rules are a matter of agreement, not imposition by adults. You will no doubt discover that when your children are older.

I can see that. I still think it’s an inappropriate thing to do. If you are very vulnerable, get a hotel or stay in your room yourself.

Yes because that's practical 🙄 Not everyone can afford to pay for a hotel room for two weeks and if a person is shielding/ECV why should they put themselves at increased risk by going into a public space? What if there are other children who need caring for? Or a single parent?

As I pointed out, in a household with teenagers in, house rules are a matter of agreement, not imposition by adults.

So why won’t she say whether she would have disallowed her children from exercising? Surely if they all agreed on the rules there would be no question of disallowing anything.

@SchrodingersImmigrant thank you! I'm afraid it's not original; I nicked it from a MN Classics thread. But I like to think I've ruined that thread for a lot of people made it my own

if a person is shielding/ECV why should they put themselves at increased risk by going into a public space?

Because it is their health issue, not their child’s. Forcing your child to confine themselves in their room for days rather than making alternative arrangements for yourself or accepting some level of risk as inevitable when you have kids is WRONG.

@flaviaritt

Where does it say the room was small?

I mean a room as opposed to having the run of the house. Clearly I don’t know the size of the room. Let’s assume it’s just an average room. It’s not right to confine a child in it for days at a time.

Yet again, you retreat back to the point that no-one is contesting. But the point you are blatantly avoiding was a simple question about why you said this child couldn't exercise.

@flaviaritt

As I pointed out, in a household with teenagers in, house rules are a matter of agreement, not imposition by adults.

So why won’t she say whether she would have disallowed her children from exercising? Surely if they all agreed on the rules there would be no question of disallowing anything.

You are the one that assumes she would have prevented them from exercising. No-one has to justify things they haven't said.

[quote JesusInTheCabbageVan]@SchrodingersImmigrant thank you! I'm afraid it's not original; I nicked it from a MN Classics thread. But I like to think I've ruined that thread for a lot of people made it my own [/quote]
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You took the wheel, I see😂

@lyralalala

Seems so have a lot of time on her hands with a 3 year old

That's probably because she's got the only 100% compliant small child in the world.

Or 3yo is locked in her room

@flaviaritt I haven't read the whole thread but you clearly have a been in your bonnet.

If a child is at risk of infecting an entire household with whatever virus they have I would absolutely make them stay in their rooms, whether that's for a few days or 2 weeks as long as they were able to take care of their own personal care (ie not under 5) There's nothing inappropriate about it. Why on earth would you infect 4/6/8+ people when it's totally avoidable. Especially in this day and age when they have the means to communicate via technology with friends and family.

I'm one of 6 and many years ago sister no5 had whooping cough. She was isolated in a room in the house for 3 weeks and we were very inventive at doing things to make her feel included.

It would be far more inappropriate to let them infect everyone else in the household

Yet again, you retreat back to the point that no-one is contesting.

No. People are contesting it.

Because it is their health issue, not their child’s. Forcing your child to confine themselves in their room for days rather than making alternative arrangements for yourself or accepting some level of risk as inevitable when you have kids is WRONG.

Wow. Now I understand. You are seriously lacking in empathy and compassion. And if you really think a parent exposing themselves to increased risk, which may result in their death, is good for a child then there's something very wrong with you.

That health issue is not something a parent has chosen to have. And are families not supposed to care for one another? Because again no one is suggesting anyone be forced to do anything. The kids may be asked if they would and if they refused would have to go elsewhere where they can roam freely. They're being given a choice.

You didn't answer the latter part of my post you quoted. What if there were other children who needed caring for? What if it was a single parent who was ECV? And I'll add another what if one of the other children in the home was ECV?

If a child is at risk of infecting an entire household with whatever virus they have I would absolutely make them stay in their rooms, whether that's for a few days or 2 weeks as long as they were able to take care of their own personal care (ie not under 5)

You would confine a 6 year old to their bedroom for two weeks? Yes, you could see I have ‘a bee in my bonnet’ about that. It’s hideous.

What if there were other children who needed caring for? What if it was a single parent who was ECV? And I'll add another what if one of the other children in the home was ECV?

Those are all good questions. For me, when I chose to become a parent I accepted that I might one day get an illness from my child. It’s part of parenting. I am not okay with a child being locked up to protect a parent.

If one of the other children was ECV, I would break the law and send one of the children to stay somewhere else if I could. If I couldn’t, I would do my best to keep them separate, but neither would be confined to a bedroom for days or weeks at a time. We would use different spaces in the house at different times. Because the rights of both children are important.

Since we are talking about confinement to the bedroom.

Anyone bought 100%cotton bedding from Wayfair? They have some nice pieces but I wonder about quality.

I loved the original jesus in a cabbage van thread. I'd only just started poking around MN then and it made me feel like I'd found my people. Even though waitrose was, and remains, out of my price range

You are the one that assumes she would have prevented them from exercising. No-one has to justify things they haven't said.

Indeed she doesn’t have to say anything. But what she has said is enough. If she wants to change my understanding of it she can clarify. If not, I’ll go with what I think has been said already.

You would confine a 6 year old to their bedroom for two weeks? Yes, you could see I have ‘a bee in my bonnet’ about that. It’s hideous.

Haha well now I can see why everyone is having a go at you, you are being ridiculous.

Although I could maybe feel sorry for someone who is confined to an empty room with no bed or toys, where no one talks to them through the door or on social media channels.

Have to go now. My teen is texting me from his room to make him some food Ive told him to come out and do his own, he's not happy about that

Not seen the wayfair stuff but am obsessed with trying to find affordable 100 % linen. It's so expensive but looks so pretty.

Haha well now I can see why everyone is having a go at you, you are being ridiculous.

Right... Perfectly normal and nothing to see here, when people say they would perfectly happily do this thing that I have literally never heard of any person doing, apart from maybe some cultish people in America.

But yes, all standard and not worthy of comment.

6 years old.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Since we are talking about confinement to the bedroom.

Anyone bought 100%cotton bedding from Wayfair? They have some nice pieces but I wonder about quality.

There’s a nice rug someone’s MIL bought from wayfair on another thread 🤣

@Timshortforthalia

Not seen the wayfair stuff but am obsessed with trying to find affordable 100 % linen. It's so expensive but looks so pretty.

Exactly! Though they last, don't they (I would hope!) My mum has some older than me😂

@BungleandGeorge i might have a look for it😁