Doing this to a child is wrong

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BBC report : His said his 14-year-old daughter had not left her bedroom for four days, with meals being left outside her door, until the family learned the result was void on Thursday

This is so wrong to do to a child

@flaviaritt

Apparently they just need to be told “It wasn’t your fault” and they’ll be fine 😂😂

Apparently it’s fine to lock your kids in their bedrooms for days on the off-chance that they’re going to kill everyone they know when they have a bad cold/flu/no actual illness at all. Who knew?

You are still literally the only person banging on about locking kids in rooms.

The rest of us are just talking about families being considerate and taking care of each other by not spreading contagious illnesses.

And your “no illness at all” is yet more bollocks from you.

The rest of us are just talking about families being considerate and taking care of each other by not spreading contagious illnesses.

That is absolute rubbish. We are discussing whether it is okay to make the child stay in their room.

Personally when I’ve had flu I’ve had no problem whatsoever staying in bed for the duration, as an adult that’s often not possible. Same with D&V really but maybe the bathroom rather than bedroom

@flaviaritt

northstars

Feel free to go elsewhere if you don’t like it.

For someone who keeps virtue signalling and banging on about their own parenting, you spend an awful lot of time hanging around and having pointless arguments on mumsnet. Perhaps you should find more productive ways to spend your day.

corythatwas

Of course that remote possibility would be very negative for them. It doesn’t make it their fault. If they are in their own home, not coughing on anyone, washing their hands etc., they are taking reasonable measures. Confining them to their room for days isn’t reasonable.

northstars

No, I’m fine here. Thanks.

I am not convinced that teens (of whom I have brought up 2, one vulnerable) need quite as much close care as you suggest. But if they did, that is precisely why they need fit and healthy parents.

In one of the families I mentioned, both parents were pretty well incapacitated for well over a month, one of them still hasn't recovered after 8 months, the other was struggling to breathe at the time. Fortunately their son was 19. But if he had been 14, that wouldn't magically have spared them.

I wonder which one of those allowed their infected family member to wander about the house passing the virus on to them, so they could pass it on to mum who then died, all for the sake of a few days in their room.

I’m terribly sorry that happened. But you can’t blame people for going about (as far as possible) their normal lives. It’s not their fault.

@flaviaritt

The rest of us are just talking about families being considerate and taking care of each other by not spreading contagious illnesses.

That is absolute rubbish. We are discussing whether it is okay to make the child stay in their room.

You are the only one banging on about force and making. The only one.

I didn't need any draconian measures to make my children stay in their room when they were ill. It was part of the general house rules that we learnt from each other, like sitting nicely at the table and taking your outdoor shoes off. This is how we do things in this family. They saw what I did and assumed they'd do the same.

You are the only one banging on about force and making. The only one.

I am well aware that I am the one talking about making. If the child is made to stay in their room, that is unacceptable to me. Others are disagreeing.

I do kind of admire the ability to absolutely dominate threads like this.
Has it been made about someone's 4 year old who has nothing to do with it, yet?😂

Why do you think this girl was forced? Do you think that the type of parent who would force kids to stay in rooms would be announcing it via the press?

Unless there were circumstances like mental health issues, most teens would be happy to have room service and their home comforts in their room.

corythatwas

What was the longest time you confined your children to their rooms for?

@flaviaritt

You are the only one banging on about force and making. The only one.

I am well aware that I am the one talking about making. If the child is made to stay in their room, that is unacceptable to me. Others are disagreeing.

Your ability to twist what people are saying in your desire to be the sole focus of the thread is quite spectacular.

Your ability to twist what people are saying in your desire to be the sole focus of the thread is quite spectacular

What do you think I am twisting there?

But you can’t blame people for going about (as far as possible) their normal lives. It’s not their fault.

And that makes exactly what difference to the people who are left behind? They're still bereaved, they still have to live without what their relative would have meant to them.

I also don't see how a 14yo in the family I mentioned would not have missed the usual level of care from their surviving but incapacitated parent for 8 months just because it wasn't their fault. How that wouldn't have frightened them.

TicTacTwo

As I have said, if the teenager was happy, that’s great. IF not, not great.

@flaviaritt

TicTacTwo

As I have said, if the teenager was happy, that’s great. IF not, not great.

How many bloody times do you need to repeat this?

And that makes exactly what difference to the people who are left behind? They're still bereaved, they still have to live without what their relative would have meant to them.

Of course. That doesn’t make it okay to lock them in their rooms.

How many bloody times do you need to repeat this?

That’s a question you might be better asking of the cloth-eared people who keep asking me the same thing.

@flaviaritt

Your ability to twist what people are saying in your desire to be the sole focus of the thread is quite spectacular

What do you think I am twisting there?

No-one has disagreed about the use of force, but you know that already

Just as you know in your early post you stated it was imprisonment without the use of the word “if” (even though you’ve ignored that being pointed out numerous times)

You’re obviously enjoying the chance to call people names and pretend they are thick ones who don’t get it, so I’ll leave you to it.

@flaviaritt

How many bloody times do you need to repeat this?

That’s a question you might be better asking of the cloth-eared people who keep asking me the same thing.

TicTacTwo asked you WHY you think the child was forced.

You didn’t reply, and instead repeated your same old answer yet again.

lyralalala

I am not pretending. It is perfectly clear and has been for hundreds of posts: I am saying IF.

And “force” doesn’t mean physical force. It means an instruction the child is expected to follow: “You can’t leave your room.”

And you know this. So I am not the person twisting anything. You are.

northstars

But that’s like asking why you just said the moon was made of cheese. You didn’t m. So you can’t answer it.

I didn’t say I thought the child was forced. Again, I said IF she was forced.

So asking me why I think things I don’t think is just...a bit thick.