To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

[Noddyandbiggerears]

Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

I don't understand how Diana didn't know the score

She was 19!

With no mother figure.

I do feel sorry for them that they weren't allowed to marry when they first wanted to

this is not true....

Camilla did not want to marry Charles, she married APB as she wished too.... and Charles did not want to marry until he was 30 years old ...

so there was no objection to them marrying each other. They chose not too..

Wasn't her gran in the scene, didn't her sister date him?
She would also have seen plenty of convenient marriages by that age, haven't we all, whatever social class we are in?
It seems strange to me that the whole family would let her go through all the courtship, the examinations and scrutiny without pulling her aside .
But maybe they did, and she didn't believe it. A lit of young girls are like that, I suppose.

You can't really speculate on what would have become of Diana because she is gone.

Maybe she would have lived to the insta-age and people would be posting on here "have you seen Di's latest post? What's going on with her?" Like they do with Britney or Kerry Katona. Maybe she would have really grown into her own skin, married happily and still be going around the world saving lives.

She helped a lot more people than I have ever done in my life, more than most. Unfortunately affairs happen around the world left right and center. If we were to be analyzed by another species, they may describe this as a human trait. However the level of good she did could be considered saintly.

Diana was captured for a moment in life and then was gone. Despite the tragedy of her marriage she did some beautiful things and I think that reflects a feeling in all of us whose lives are falling apart and we still try to do good where we can. So people get passionate about that.

That said, time keeps moving forward. Charles and Camilla aren't frozen in time. Years have passed and times have changed. I LOVE the Crown, but imagine the mistakes you made 40 years ago being turned into countless documentaries, tv series, movies... it was a big deal to have the coronation filmed all those years ago. Could you have really expected back in the 80s something like Netflix where they have such little influence over production was conceivable? Of course don't do the crime if you can't do the time. But i think having to watch yourself portrayed as a dumpy man stealing witch and a clumsy insecure loser/wannabe mummy's boy over and over is already quite the punishment.

How would I know? I've never met either of them.

[quote Dongdingdong]**@Dongdingdong I tend to hope that no one ends up with an unfaithful husband.

And yet you start a thread saying that two people who broke up a marriage, deeply hurting other people in the process, are an example of “true love”? Riiiight.[/quote]
Seriously - not sure what your issue is. You started off with a weird dig at not just me but my parents,

You then went onto have a “well I hope you all have cheating husbands“ moment.

Now I assume you’re suggesting that I wish all women don’t get on well in their marriages as I started a thread about Charles and Camilla.

I think they genuinely love each other, indeed I think Camilla is the only woman Charles has ever loved.

Whatever love is...

Without wishing to sound crass, if the plan was always to marry a brood mare while carrying on with Camilla, what took him so long to get married? And why couldn't he have married a "suitable" woman who knew the score and accepted it?

What makes you think any of them would have wanted a self pitying weakling like him?
Many such women marry other aristos anyway, so get the money, lifestyle and lovely homes without needing to tolerate Charles and all the public nonsense that goes with him

Wasn’t Jilly Cooper’s Rupert Campbell Black based on APB? Seem to remember reading that somewhere

Because the job is s**t, Puzzledandpissedoff. He proposed to others and they didn't want the job. Neither did a couple of Harry's gfs and he's not even in direct line for the throne.

@Bibidy

I do feel sorry for them that they weren't allowed to marry when they first wanted to. Just a shame Diana was dragged into the mix at all as I'm sure people would have liked them both more otherwise.

They were allowed to marry. They just didn’t want to get married together. The royal family used Diana. Prince Charles used Diana. She was 19 and thought she had found security, safety and love.

@Dongdingdong

I like Camilla.

Ridiculous double standards on this thread. Let’s hope none of your DHs cheat on you with a mistress behind your backs. Or will you be perfectly happy if they do so long as it’s “true love”?

Also, on the living separately thing - I imagine it is very easy to stay married if you barely see each other.

Ridiculous attitude.

The situation is hardly comparable.

OF COURSE the injured party would not expect to be happy and accepting.

Why millions of strangers who have never met them feel they should have anger towards the situation I have no idea.

What a bizarre mindset.

I think they genuinely love each other, indeed I think Camilla is the only woman Charles has ever loved.

Charles one and only love is himself... he loves himself first and above all things ...

Because the job is st

No doubt - but then, many of their people aren't especially pleasant either
Going by the RF's overall divorce rate, it seems even those further from the throne and the publicity struggle to make it work, and while I wouldn't want it myself there are far worse jobs

So I'd suggest the common denominator may well be them

The situation is hardly comparable.

Um, why not? They may be royalty, but at the end of the day they’re still people, just like the rest of us.

Now I assume you’re suggesting that I wish all women don’t get on well in their marriages as I started a thread about Charles and Camilla.

Nope - I just find the fact that you are applauding a relationship between a pair of cheats who caused a huge amount of hurt to a young wife and two boys quite horrible to be honest. Are you honestly surprised by that?

Why millions of strangers who have never met them feel they should have anger towards the situation I have no idea.

What a bizarre mindset.

You’re the one with the bizarre mindset. Should we all just remain totally ambivalent on anything that involves anyone we don’t know personally?

And I’m not angry - I just dislike the pair of them because of the abhorrent way they behaved, and find the OP’s definition of “true love” rather mind-boggling. As I said, she certainly sets the bar extremely low.

They happily used a young girl as a beard and committed adultery. No, I dont think it is sweet - they are deeply selfish people who didnt care who they hurt.

Charles wasn't actually seeing her for much of the early part of his marriage. There was a different mistress in the ascendancy around then

What irritates me most about this thread is that if someone's husband cheated and left for OW, but that was their soul mate, no one would say 'well they are happy' 'maybe it's genuine love'

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Suppose, for instance, someone came on here and said she had been the OW but her partner's marriage had always been unhappy and with hindsight she bitterly regrets that they had not got married when they had the chance and were in their 20s; that partner's wife had been dead for 23 years; that she and partner had been happily married for 15 years; but that his friends and associates were still refusing to accept you - would we all really say it was unreasonable to expect said friends and associates to get over themselves, realise that the first marriage had been a dreadful mistake and be happy that the partner was now in a happy, settled relationship?

@ Dongdingdong presumably you don’t think much of Diana either then? Given she had affairs with numerous married men?

Diana was no better than Charles yet people seem to think of him with contempt and treat Diana as some poor innocent victim.

I don’t think there’s any question Diana would have cheated if the marriage had been a happy one.

Well, that's pretty self-evident; you could say the same about Charles. Few people in happy marriages cheat.

However, I don't think you can necessarily assume that Diana wouldn't have cheated even with Camilla out of the picture. Both her parents committed adultery, after all, as did her brother.

Was Charles cheating before during and after the grande waddin ?

Well, that's pretty self-evident; you could say the same about Charles. Few people in happy marriages cheat.

The marriage wasn’t happy because Charles was in love with another woman and cheated!

I get the impression affairs are very much the norm.

I fully expect when the Cambridge kids are older to read the same stories about William's affairs. I doubt Rose was/is/will be his only extra marital affair.