A visor is not a face covering

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Just that, AIBU?

And the 50p paper masks are such great things.....

I did say you can do basic signs

I didn’t say you can have a full blown conversation did I.

Yes and no. Don’t know. Basic signs.

@Happyheartlovelife

I did say you can do basic signs

I didn’t say you can have a full blown conversation did I.

Yes and no. Don’t know. Basic signs.

But that is my point. I need to have full blown conversations with the person I am supporting so cannot wear a mask.

Your point being Op???

Schadenfreude

Ahh, the good old days

YANBU all the elderly ladies seem to be wearing them and they don't protect them or others from covid

I wear a visor if I'm out with my deaf daughter because she needs to see my face to lip read. I could be exempt from wearing a mask when I'm with her, according to the rules, so I would think a visor is better than nothing.

I work in a playgroup and several mums only wear visors. I don't see the point of them, but we aren't allowed to deny any factual covering

Or facial ones!

The post wasn't intended as a judgment on people wearing them or not. Just that visors are not face coverings, according to the definitions. Thanks for the references to the studies and the votes. Seems there's a general consensus.

@Happyheartlovelife

For all those that say about lip reading

I’m deaf. Not completely but pretty much

I can’t hear people with a mask on

However. Most deaf people sign. Most hearing people do not. There are basic signs that we’ve coped with for many years with the hearing world. Yes masks have made it harder. But it was hard anyway as the Majority of people do not sign

So not wearing a mask so that deaf people can lip read.

Every single deaf person signs to some degree. Might not be BSL or ASL. But basic signs. That don’t care whether you’re wearing a mask or not. Can still be done. Yes. No. This way. Over here. Etc. This comes to £5.

The other option. Which people did way before masks and Covid. Is to write anyway.

Not wearing a mask so you can talk to a deaf person. Anyone can speak to a deaf person. Regardless of a mask.

Just to take issue with every single deaf person can sign.

My son has severe hearing loss but he does have a small level of residual hearing. He is 30.

The view at the time was that he should actively not be taught to sign and should be made to learn to cope with the level of hearing he has and lip reading.

I asked for him to be taught to sign and for me and his dad to learn and I was pop pooed by the professionals.

He needs to be able to lip read.

I think it depends in what context you mean. Hairdresser ect no as they are standing over you, if sneeze/ cough its not contained as droplets will come out underneath, they are supposed to wear both. Hospital staff wear masks or both depending on their actual job. For shopping yes its fine as its there to protect others you are not that close to others.

It’s been proved scientifically that visors are not good enough to protect people. Even more so when people wear them high on their heads so the bottom of the mask is in line with their mouth (my hairdresser). People should act more responsibly

Well said.

Thank you, thank you , thank you

Not as effective as a proper mask by far.

One's ability or comfort in wearing a mask aside, visors are only useful as additional measures along with a mask, not instead of. I'm not sure why people are not clear on this and making decisions accordingly.

If you can't mask, you're not protecting others from covid. Although sympathetic to visor only wearers, ultimately the reason for not masking is irrelevant. I think it's up the workplace to re-deploy staff if possible and the general public are free to shop elsewhere.

Our headteacher wears just a visor on the gate which is approx 2m wide. With all the effort that staff and parents have made in order to create covid security at the school, (and the absolute runaway numbers of covid infections despite lockdown) more than a few of us feel it's very poor leadership.

The cloth masks don't work much and neither do the visors. There's a reason doctors and nurses on the covid wards have better kit. Picking between one poor choice and another poor choice is unhelpful surely?

I'm fucking sick of this shit!
Covid is nothing more then Flu!! How many people do you know that have died of Covid? I know 2 people that now have terminal cancer due to their appointments being cancelled time and again due to fucking Covid. I also know a nurse that assures me that the NHS is NOT overwhelmed with Covid and cannot understand the scaremongering!
I'm pissed off and don't give a shit if you all slate me.
Get a fucking GRIP!!

Does it not go over your face? I thought they went on your face so therefore it would be a face covering 🤦‍♀️

Covid is nothing more then Flu!! How many people do you know that have died of Covid?

You're right. Nobody has died here at all. The 57,000 is all made up.

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YANBU but as that is as much as some people can tolerate it's regarded as better than nothing.

In reality it's a placebo.

I was of the opinion that they're better than nothing but now I'm not so sure. I do think that exemption from mask wearing should require a medic's signature, not just picking up a daisy lanyard on your own say so. I'm not without sympathy for those with a genuine need for exemption though I think they should be in the highly vulnerable group and required to shield and therefore not be out and about. As things stand I think there are plenty using it as a convenient excuse to not do something they don't personally agree with and that's not on.

@SoupDragon

Covid is nothing more then Flu!! How many people do you know that have died of Covid?

You're right. Nobody has died here at all. The 57,000 is all made up.

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Oh sorry my mistake so you personally know ALL 57 thousand? Same as 70 thousand plus that has succumbed to Flu? Thought not!

@GertieBassett out of nothing more than sheer curiosity, where have you got that 70k figure from?