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To find these covid snitching threads terrifying

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 07:12

Student house party. 75% voted for OP to call police.

Really?

I think this thread is chilling proof at how far we've fallen in a society within such a small amount of time. Less than a year with constant media brainwashing, all of us essentially under house arrest, and look at us. Clearing out supermarkets and calling the police because "it's the right thing to do" and "they're putting society at risk".

Who else would you have turned in?

At what other point in history would you have colluded with the government to "do the right thing", without any thought for your fellow humans just being people?

They are students. They are broke, they have been confined to their box rooms almost a whole year. Have some heart for christs sake.

And by the way, I do believe in covid. I believe in staying home and wearing masks and doing the right thing. I would never grass though. Ever. And that goes for covid antics, benefit fraud, whatever. I believe people sometimes do what they need to do to survive physically or emotionally.

I think its terrifying what society has become in less than a year.

Who would have thought we would be living on a world where you would be standing in a little yellow circle traced out on a supermarket floor, and not an inch over if you please, else you'll be reported as a health threat!

Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

I'm not advocating for student parties, I'm advocating for looking away when you see one.

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Backbee · 22/11/2020 07:59

I wouldnt grass on a Covidiot, a benefit fraudster, a shoplifter.

You sound pathetic yourself OP, why wouldn't you report a shoplifter? Most aren't stealing bread and milk to feed their families, and it pushes the price up for everyone else. Benefit fraud is admittedly more complex and I wouldn't either, but students having a party hell yeah. People are having their livelihoods stripped away, haven't seen family for months upon months, are stuck WFH or relentlessly job hunting. Why should young adults who could have a party within their household rather than inviting loads of others be able to carry on as is? I wouldn't report someone having an extra family member or whatever over, but a party with a lot of people I would.

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GalesThisMorning · 22/11/2020 07:59

@CrotchBurn I wouldn't phone the police in those instances either, most likely. But not because they dont cause direct harm- of course they do.

Benefit fraud reinforces a culture where benefit claimants are seen as scroungers. Theft from a shop obviously causes some direct impact to the shop owner Hmm (that one is obvious!). Disregarding pandemic rules puts a few in direct harm of illness or death and puts the many in harm of never ending lockdowns and restrictions.

The shit we do generally matters. Teach that to your kids if you have them!

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Doingitaloneandproud · 22/11/2020 07:59

I think some people are so excited to snitch on others for breaking Covid rules. I do hope that those who will report will also admit to that person it was them. Are we honestly going to see people turning on their families or their neighbours if they have someone over for Christmas if the government haven't said we can?!

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:00

@AlternativePerspective
I think that's quite a facile and lazy way of shutting down debate. PP is clearly drawing parallels between the psychological processes at work, not the actual circumstances

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Backbee · 22/11/2020 08:00

I think some people are so excited to snitch on others for breaking Covid rules.

Why do you assume that? Most threads on here are debating it, if they were super excited surely theyd just crack on and have a whale of a time.

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Stopandlook · 22/11/2020 08:00

I’d be annoyed but quietly understanding too. I was a student in the 90s and we loved going out dancing. I do feel for them.
I wouldn’t have broken the rules as a student and don’t now. But I kind of have a bit of sympathy- you’re only young once Sad

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:01

@Backbee
If your not capable of engaging in impartial debate, I'm afraid I cant read past the first line of your post. Sorry!

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CakeRequired · 22/11/2020 08:01

Just let people die then op. Its fine, it's just a virus, the poor students need to let off some steam and have a party. The older or vulnerable people don't matter if they catch it and die, they should have stayed inside, right? Hmm

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:02

@GalesThisMorning
So I'm interested to know why you wouldnt grass if you think those situations do cause harm? What is it that means you personally wouldnt report on those situations?

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oakleaffy · 22/11/2020 08:02

Grassing?

No.

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AwaAnBileYerHeid · 22/11/2020 08:02

The thing is, they are potentially harming people. If it wasn't for that then I couldn't care less what they do. They know that they could be asymptomatic and spreading the virus. They know about community transmission. They just don't give a shit about that. We really all have to look out for those in society who need us to look out them. People are dying because of this virus. Dying partly because of people not giving a shit. When people are recklessly and knowingly putting others in danger, that's when we have to do something.

I'm not sure why anyone would just shrug their shoulders and be like aw this party could potentially cause a massive outbreak in this town/city, lead to deaths/ill health but aw I don't want to be a grass, it's fine. I genuinely don't get that mentality.

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:03

@AwaAnBileYerHeid
I agree, but would you personally really report on them?

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JacobReesMogadishu · 22/11/2020 08:04

My dd is a uni student, she's managed not to break the rules or go to a party.

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AltJ · 22/11/2020 08:04

@AlternativePerspective

@ AltJ I don’t think someone who compares someone reporting a student party to a nazi sympathiser is in a position to comment on the comparisons other people are making here.

So I'm not allowed to even comment, now?

Who put you in charge?

If you are capable of understanding my posts, you'd appreciate that I'm saying the two things are literally the same, of course they aren't. The students aren't Jews hiding from Nazi's. What I AM saying is the impulse to report, to control and punish others because that's what the government has told you to do, which makes you 'good' and others 'bad' is the same psychological process.
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AlternativePerspective · 22/11/2020 08:04

Actually I think this thread has confirmed the opposite of what OP set out to achieve and has proven just how selfish and unhinged so many people in society are.

The kind of people who are saying this is wrong are the same people comparing reporters to nazi sympathisers and saying that we shouldn’t worry about what the students are doing because it’s only old people dying after all.

This thread sends out an extremely unpleasant message and shows just what kind of people are spreading the virus with no consideration for anyone else but themselves.

And I’d bet money that none of those posters know anyone who has had COVID or who are at serious risk of catching it.

Maybe when it’s your relative who is dead you might sit up and take notice. Or does taking notice of other people’s plight make you a nazi sympathiser?

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GalesThisMorning · 22/11/2020 08:04

@CrotchBurn the psychological process of othering people to the extent of turning a blind eye to concentration camp is not quite the same as not wanting parts of society to prolong this crisis is it though?

How do people not see that??? How is this shit allowed to stand?? My grandparents were Holocaust victims. The shit we're going through?

It. Is. Not. The. Same.

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GalesThisMorning · 22/11/2020 08:05

[quote CrotchBurn]@GalesThisMorning
So I'm interested to know why you wouldnt grass if you think those situations do cause harm? What is it that means you personally wouldnt report on those situations?[/quote]
Frankly the belief that it wouldn't even register on the police radar and nothing would come of it

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oakleaffy · 22/11/2020 08:05

[quote CrotchBurn]@GalesThisMorning
So I'm interested to know why you wouldnt grass if you think those situations do cause harm? What is it that means you personally wouldnt report on those situations?[/quote]
We live in a University City.

I see crowds of young men and Women walking out at night...I could say to them ''Mind Covid!''

But....They will do their socialising no matter what.

We are all going to get this blasted Covid sooner or later..I say take care if you think you are at risk, but I do feel sorry for the Uni students.

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:06

@GalesThisMorning
Did people really turn a blind eye to concentration camps? I thought they had no idea that the camps existed.

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AltJ · 22/11/2020 08:06

@AlternativePerspective

Actually I think this thread has confirmed the opposite of what OP set out to achieve and has proven just how selfish and unhinged so many people in society are.

The kind of people who are saying this is wrong are the same people comparing reporters to nazi sympathisers and saying that we shouldn’t worry about what the students are doing because it’s only old people dying after all.

This thread sends out an extremely unpleasant message and shows just what kind of people are spreading the virus with no consideration for anyone else but themselves.

And I’d bet money that none of those posters know anyone who has had COVID or who are at serious risk of catching it.

Maybe when it’s your relative who is dead you might sit up and take notice. Or does taking notice of other people’s plight make you a nazi sympathiser?

I've had Covid.

I caught it in the hospital where I work, and spread it to my family.

HTH
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JacobReesMogadishu · 22/11/2020 08:06

And some of the partying students are nursing students, medical students.... Who trot off and work with vulnerable patients the next day. If you were having a baby would you be happy having a midwifery student there if you knew the previous weekend she'd been to a party with 40 people

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:07

@GalesThisMorning
Interesting. So in your case it's not a moral thing that would push you to report or not report, it's more whether you think your report would have any impact.

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AwaAnBileYerHeid · 22/11/2020 08:07

Also a question; if you believe that "snitching isn't right" then what would you do if you were witness to a crime? If a house was burgled and you saw the perpetrator. If someone was assaulted and you were able to identify the assailant? Would you say nothing because "snitching isn't right"?

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ShinyGreenElephant · 22/11/2020 08:08

@CrotchBurn totally agree. I've lost 2 close family members to covid and I've had it myself, its bloody horrible. It irritates the life out of me seeing my neighbours in and out of each others houses by the minutes, drinking in the garden sitting on each others knees, sharing ciggies. Every bloody weekend since the pubs shut, this time and last. Their kids go to my kids school and they're not even trying. But it honestly wouldn't even enter my head to grass on them - what would that make me??

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CrotchBurn · 22/11/2020 08:09

@AwaAnBileYerHeid
I'll let others answer because I answered on page 2 I think. Personally would always report where I see direct harm.

So for example if I saw someone spitting in somebody's face to give them covid I would report. A party I wouldnt because for all I know the students are then completely isolated from others in their normal day to day lives.

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