To find these covid snitching threads terrifying

[CrotchBurn]

Student house party. 75% voted for OP to call police.

Really?

I think this thread is chilling proof at how far we've fallen in a society within such a small amount of time. Less than a year with constant media brainwashing, all of us essentially under house arrest, and look at us. Clearing out supermarkets and calling the police because "it's the right thing to do" and "they're putting society at risk".

Who else would you have turned in?

At what other point in history would you have colluded with the government to "do the right thing", without any thought for your fellow humans just being people?

They are students. They are broke, they have been confined to their box rooms almost a whole year. Have some heart for christs sake.

And by the way, I do believe in covid. I believe in staying home and wearing masks and doing the right thing. I would never grass though. Ever. And that goes for covid antics, benefit fraud, whatever. I believe people sometimes do what they need to do to survive physically or emotionally.

I think its terrifying what society has become in less than a year.

Who would have thought we would be living on a world where you would be standing in a little yellow circle traced out on a supermarket floor, and not an inch over if you please, else you'll be reported as a health threat!

Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

I'm not advocating for student parties, I'm advocating for looking away when you see one.

[SchrodingersImmigrant]

Being special and non conforming just for the sake of being special isn't the best way...

[Mummyoflittledragon]

@HumanFemale1

"I don’t think the average person thinks as deeply as this. The most searched for phrase the day after the referendum was “what is the EU”."

Bloody hell!!!!!!

Tell me you're kidding please

No sadly not and it was all over mumsnet at the time...

[HumanFemale1]

"I don’t think the average person thinks as deeply as this. The most searched for phrase the day after the referendum was “what is the EU”."

Bloody hell!!!!!!

Tell me you're kidding please

[Wheresmykimchi]

I can't quote but....

Even if they are mixing with people from other 'flats' - same.floors.of the different building I still don't see the problem with that.

[Pollynextdoor]

And Nigel Farrage understand this. Isn’t he renaming his party the anti- lockdown party? I bet you his previous followers are all in.

[Pollynextdoor]

I don’t know about the Brits being more inclined to question authority and other nations being more compliant.
I think Brits are more likely not to understand science and experts. I won’t say question because ultimately I think it’s lack of understanding And not liking it when educated people use long words. Sorry Brits See also Brexit, Donald Trump etc

[Mummyoflittledragon]

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Just for example, I was shouted at by a passer by for not waiting for the green man to cross the road.'

That is nothing to do with Nazi Germany there's just lots of mouthy twats about.

I never said it was comparable to nazi Germany. Ffs. I was talking about population compliance and German societal norms, which are very different from the U.K.

Schrodingers. Yes it is illegal to do so in Germany. My understanding is were I hit by a car, it would have been my fault. As I say this was one example. People were very very ready to point out anything anyone else does wrong. It’s standard in Germany.

[SchrodingersImmigrant]

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Just for example, I was shouted at by a passer by for not waiting for the green man to cross the road.'

That is nothing to do with Nazi Germany there's just lots of mouthy twats about.

It's a bad example for children😁
I don't know how in Germany, but where I grew up you get fined if police sees you do it.

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'Just for example, I was shouted at by a passer by for not waiting for the green man to cross the road.'

That is nothing to do with Nazi Germany there's just lots of mouthy twats about.

[ineedsun]

[quote Wheresmykimchi]@IwantToDatePicard, students who live together in halls and are partying together IN THEIR HALLS...I'm not sure I see the issue.[/quote]
They really aren't all doing this

[Mummyoflittledragon]

@toodlelooo

"Colluding with the government" - that's where you lost me, OP. You're alluding to regimes like in Nazi Germany but the parallels can only be made on a superficial level - e.g. individuals feeling compelled to report non-compliance. But the reasons behind it are completely different. In those times people were kept entirely in the dark as to what was going on and complied out of complete fear of thei government. With Covid, individuals have limitless information available to them from around the world, which they can use to decide where they stand on the issue and act accordingly. In most of the discussions here people have very nuanced, personal reasons for how they feel about it. The two situations just don't compare.

I don’t think the average person thinks as deeply as this. The most searched for phrase the day after the referendum was “what is the EU”.

Of course I don’t think the situation is the same as 100 years ago. But the division in this country, suspicion and psychological mechanism behind reporting one another holds similarities.

Nazi germany didn’t start at the beginning of WWII. The official ostracism of the Jews started in 1933 and the foundations had been laid before this for they were scapegoated as being responsible for losing WWI, 15 years prior.

By the time the Nazis came to power, some, but by no means all, Germans believed Jewish people to be inferior. Some German citizens lived in constant fear but many many did not. And I don’t just mean SS members and so forth. There weren’t enough Gauleiters for this to be the case and rather like today’s police in Britain, the Nazis ruled in large part by cooperation due to indoctrination. It just happened to be Jews in Germany had the conditions been right. But it could have been another segregated population in another western country. Eg black populations, Aborigines and so forth. However, there was no appetite to scapegoat these people as most western countries were on the winning side.

I once thought Nazi Germany could not happen in the U.K. but now I’m not so sure. It is true we are more likely to question authority, which is in part why there is less compliance during the pandemic here than in some countries eg Germany, Sweden etc. Having lived in Germany, I know there is a very large degree of compliance and people have no qualms in pointing out any minor infractions. Just for example, I was shouted at by a passer by for not waiting for the green man to cross the road.

I am apprehensive to have the vaccine as I reacted badly to prescription drugs twice and have been permanently poisoned, disabled and chronically ill. I wonder how I will be seen in the future. Will there be a two tier population now with me on the wrong side?

[RufustheSniggeringReindeer]

The point is not just about obeying the rules. It's about how much you endanger other people

No its not, its about if you don’t obey the rules then you are endangering other people

At least that’s what mumsnet threads are absolutely jam packed full of

[JacobReesMogadishu]

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

students who live together in halls and are partying together IN THEIR HALLS...I'm not sure I see the issue.

I see it clearly. It's unfiltered prejudice against young people. Your guess is as good as mine as to why.

But each flat in a halls is counted as a separate residence for covid purposes. So ten people all from one flat having a party......fine. 3 people from one flat, 5 from another, 6 from another, etc.....not fine.

[Wheresmykimchi]

@Whitechocolatemarshmallow

The vast majority of the year group will not have been in close contact yet will be having to isolate at home for 2 weeks needlessly.

Most schools aren't isolating a full year group but the pupils deemed to be at risk.

[ddl1]

The point is not just about obeying the rules. It's about how much you endanger other people.

I wouldn't have reported Jean Valjean. But if he'd taken a gun into a shop to commit a robbery, and was threatening to shoot people, I would have.

If every one of the people who attends a huge and non-socially distanced party is prepared to self-isolate for the next two weeks (which students often could if necessary), then it's up to them. But if it results in them spreading infection on a large scale, then it's a different matter.

[ddl1]

So are they fine with small scale law breaking (loaf of bread) but not with large scale (bank heist)

Most people, probably yes!

[RufustheSniggeringReindeer]

@Calmandmeasured1

Unless you’re a keyworker it appears to be your fault if you get covid
Sometimes it is a keyworker's fault that they get Covid too. They aren't immune from ignoring the rules. There was a recent report in the national press of 6 nurses car-sharing and they were having to self-isolate. There were so many staff off in their Midlands-based NHS Trust due to either having Covid or isolating awaiting results and yet they still, stupidly, car-shared without wearing masks and having the windows open.

My point was more that people blame you for getting covid

Their first thought is what did you do wrong...

But that point stayed in my head and didn’t make it as far as the keyboard 😀

[Whitechocolatemarshmallow]

The vast majority of the year group will not have been in close contact yet will be having to isolate at home for 2 weeks needlessly.

[Covidorcold]

@Beentherefonethat genuine question - how would you feel if you passed covid onto any of them?

[Wheresmykimchi]

@Whitechocolatemarshmallow

Except no school 'has' to send the entire year group home. Why can't we just send home the infected pupil as other countries do ? Far less disruprion.

Eh, because the pupils who have come into contact with them could infect other people?!

[emilybrontescorsett]

Well I've just seen 3 school aged kids all our together in close proximty walk past my house, they don't live here eirher. I know them, they are from 3 separate households. Perhaps I should call the police and report their parents. They are clearly breaking the rules.
A friend of mine was reported for allegedly having 2 lots of visitors arrive via taxi and all go into her house. The police came and when they found her sat in her garden alone, they demanded to search her house. She was baffled. Then both sets of her neighbours got reported one set are an elderly couple. Again the police came and found they were sat alone indoors. The other neighbour was working alone from home.
Apparently other neighbours had been reported too. Turns out it's the same person doing all the reporting!
Batshit crazy springs to mind.

[Whitechocolatemarshmallow]

Except no school 'has' to send the entire year group home. Why can't we just send home the infected pupil as other countries do ? Far less disruprion.

[MarieIVanArkleStinks]

students who live together in halls and are partying together IN THEIR HALLS...I'm not sure I see the issue.

I see it clearly. It's unfiltered prejudice against young people. Your guess is as good as mine as to why.

[Beentherefonethat]

I wouldn’t report.

Shock horror but I’m still seeing all my friends and my one family member that lives near me.

[Wheresmykimchi]

@IwantToDatePicard, students who live together in halls and are partying together IN THEIR HALLS...I'm not sure I see the issue.