To find these covid snitching threads terrifying

[CrotchBurn]

Student house party. 75% voted for OP to call police.

Really?

I think this thread is chilling proof at how far we've fallen in a society within such a small amount of time. Less than a year with constant media brainwashing, all of us essentially under house arrest, and look at us. Clearing out supermarkets and calling the police because "it's the right thing to do" and "they're putting society at risk".

Who else would you have turned in?

At what other point in history would you have colluded with the government to "do the right thing", without any thought for your fellow humans just being people?

They are students. They are broke, they have been confined to their box rooms almost a whole year. Have some heart for christs sake.

And by the way, I do believe in covid. I believe in staying home and wearing masks and doing the right thing. I would never grass though. Ever. And that goes for covid antics, benefit fraud, whatever. I believe people sometimes do what they need to do to survive physically or emotionally.

I think its terrifying what society has become in less than a year.

Who would have thought we would be living on a world where you would be standing in a little yellow circle traced out on a supermarket floor, and not an inch over if you please, else you'll be reported as a health threat!

Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

I'm not advocating for student parties, I'm advocating for looking away when you see one.

[TwoLeftSocksWithHoles]

At least in Russia when you turned your family in to the KGB they gave up a pair of denim jeans which were very, very expensive in those days.

What do you get here? Nothing. Not even a box of Cadbury's Heroes.

So I wouldn't do anything.

[AltJ]

@Balhammom

Interested to know if OP thinks “grassing” on other criminals, such as murderers and rapists, is also wrong. Where exactly do you wish to draw the line? Which criminals should we turn a blind eye to?

People are dying due to coved. If some idiots are stupid and selfish enough to flout the law and put others at risk, I think we should be fining them a lot more than we currently are.

Jesus Christ.

Students having a party is the same as murdering and raping?

You sound unhinged.

[GalesThisMorning]

I find the ease at which ignorant people equate following pandemic rules to behaving like Nazi's a lot more terrifying than people saying they're going to call the police on a student party, tbh.

Also in fairness calling the police on student parties is not unheard of in normal times either is it. We don't normally wring our hands and bleat "but they're only doing what young people doooo"

Taking some personal responsibility is part of growing up. They will learn this just as we all did... most of us!

[hopefulhalf]

It's illeagal would I report a crime ? Yes. Where do YOU draw the line with family loyalty ? Theft ? Assault ? Armed robbery ? Murder ?

[RememberTheCant]

@AltJ you did not just compare reporting a party to nazi Germany.... Get a grip.

[TabbyStar]

YANBU, my DD has been in student halls, they are partying where she is, covid went through them at the beginning of term, no one is getting it now. Depending on the structure of their accommodation some students are terribly lonely. They've given up a lot. I wouldn't snitch on them (or anyone else for that matter).

[CrotchBurn]

@Balhammom
Where I personally draw the line is simple. I would grass when the person's behaviour is causing direct harm to others. For example I would grass on a rapist, murderer, paedophile, someone swindling another person, a violent thug.

I wouldnt grass on a Covidiot, a benefit fraudster, a shoplifter.

[Sunflowergirl1]

Loads of people are breaching it...seen the student party videos...30 to a flat etc so explains why CV has ripped through universities.

But I fear for how CV has brought out all the mean minded busy body snatchers who delight in reporting people. A sad reflection

Yes..where we are it feels like we are the only one complying....that's why I laugh at the "enhanced" tiers due out later this week...what a fucking joke..will just persuade more people to ignore it

[Balhammom]

@CrotchBurn please could you explain how someone who flouts covid rules isn’t causing direct harm to others?

[AlternativePerspective]

People seem to forget the wider impact of this. So let’s take an example.

A child in a class of 30 tests positive for COVID. He has two parents and a sibling. His family all have to self isolate, but in the meantime, two of his friends test positive. They in turn go home and each infect their parents who in turn have been to work and have each infected another person who has taken it home to their family and infected someone else, and meanwhile the sibling of the older child also tests positive and all the children in their class also are sent home, and two of those infect members of their family who in turn infect someone else and it becomes a ripple effect.

In the beginning of this someone made reference to a man who got in a lift with four other people. That man was positive for COVID. By getting in that lift he was the starting point for infecting 76 people with COVID, all because of that ripple effect.

I really could care less if students are unable to have a party. Not able to see family, yep. Not able to go out and get pissed and get laid and drugged up to the eyeballs? Grow the fuck up.

[JacobReesMogadishu]

As a uni lecturer I’d report such a party.

I and my colleagues have to teach the students face to face and can’t even social distance from them due to the nature of the course. So if they have parties (and I’m sure they do) they’re putting me at risk and each other. One of my colleagues has caught covid and died. Quite probably caught it at work. My Dd is immune compromised and I’m terrified about bringing it back to her.

[JacobReesMogadishu]

[quote Balhammom]@CrotchBurn please could you explain how someone who flouts covid rules isn’t causing direct harm to others?[/quote]
Yes, please do. Especially in light of my previous comment about my colleague who died.

[FippertyGibbett]

I’d be interested to know if the police would actually turn up.

[FippertyGibbett]

And no, I wouldn’t report them.
My NDN’s son keeps coming home from Uni - none of my business.

[SlayDuggee]

I thought most students were sent home in March /April when schools and university closed. University restarted at the end of September/October. Students are allowed out to get food, go to work or eduaction or exercise. Students are not confined to their box room unless they are required to self isolate. I don’t know where you live where students have been confined to their box rooms almost a year. I went for a jog yesterday and there was approx a group of 8 students out for a run together wearing their university sports club kit (which is think is technically against the rules as you are only allowed to meet one person outside) . Did I report no. It was outside and in my mind a low risk activity. However, I would probably report a house party as that is a high risk activity. I live in a city where we had a massive spike in October. 99.9% of the students were sensible (which I thank them for) and the case numbers had gone down massively before the national restrictions where imposed. The university has been doing some online lectures and some face to face since September.

[CrotchBurn]

@Balhammom

Their behaviour COULD cause direct harm to somebody after the fact. Equally though, depending on their person and their circumstances, it's possible that attending a party could have no direct harm on anyone else. So to me there is no guarantee they are causing direct harm and so I wouldnt snitch

[Pepperwand]

There's a viciousness to people's policing of others behaviour that makes me very uncomfortable.

This is how I feel. The pandemic has brought out some very unpleasant traits in certain people. The hand wringing, finger pointing, lack of understanding of others and that life is full of risk. I think the media has a lot to answer for it's left a lot of people utterly terrified, shut in their homes. We are following "the rules" but I do feel uncomfortable about it all.

[meow1989]

Sorry, are we actually aligning people who would report a large group of people knowingly breaking lockdown laws (and actually, post lockdown guidelines) to Nazi sympathisers? What an atrocious and illogical point of view.

Yes the covid death rate might be low (although some seem to be suggesting that's fine as its mainly only old people anyway) but covid is impacting on poor outcomes in other ways - isolation, delayed treatment, education, etc, and whatever your stance on the necessity of lockdown, the longer rates take decrease, the longer lockdown goes on. The more people mix, the more transmission happens, its not complicated.

Fwiw I hope I would report a large group gathering.

[RonaRossi]

regardless of the ethics of it, I dont believe snitching is right

Snitching? What are you, 12?

How far would your aversion to snitching go? Neighbour beating his wife? Neighbour selling drugs to local kids?

Don't be so ridiculous.

[Aridane]

Nah - I’m more terrified at the cunty selfishness of the superspreader students

[AuntieStella]

They're not 'just trying to socialise' though AltJ are they?

They are having large indoors closely packed parties during a time of pandemic restriction.

There are other ways of socialising.

And it's exceptionally shitty timing - winter is going to be hard enough for the NHS - which is basically full and with fewer elective procedures scheduled during the peak winter illness months in a normal year - without adding what pp called reckless behaviour which might not harm the participants but which could have life changing or life ending consequences for others. Plus all the economic and weebeing damage of causing lockdowns to be lengthened.

[missmouse101]

Selfish twats. I totally agree with reporting them. Have you not seen how the second wave is affecting us? The state hospitals are in? Christ on a bike OP....

[Sunflowergirl1]

@JacobReesMogadishu

As a uni lecturer I’d report such a party.

Well from what I have seen...you won't get much lecturing done as it is so rife! And I speak from seeing via my mate whose son is partying nearly every night

[AltJ]

@AtrociousCircumstance

To compare people reporting those who are breaking covid restrictions to reporting hidden Jewish people to the Nazis is so stupid and so offensive it takes my breath away.

Why is it?

It's making a comparison between two times that ordinary people contributed to a police state. Obviously I'm not saying that the situations are the same, they are vastly different, but the psychology of the reporting behaviour is the same.

Many people in Germany didn't know that the Jewish people they reported would be murdeed, they had just soaked up the government's message about the 'danger' of Jewish people and were following the rules, or were settling scores. I wonder if the neighbour of the students was fed up with their noise and wanted to punish them?

Students aren't worried about Covid because it's very unlikely to affect them. Most won't come into any contact with the old or vulnerable and just want to socialise. I agree it's not wise, but calling the police? I would call the police if someone was being hurt, or a serious crime was being committed, because it's the right thing to do.

The authoritarian streak in people truly terrifies me

[AlternativePerspective]

@ AltJ I don’t think someone who compares someone reporting a student party to a nazi sympathiser is in a position to comment on the comparisons other people are making here.