To find these covid snitching threads terrifying

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Student house party. 75% voted for OP to call police.

Really?

I think this thread is chilling proof at how far we've fallen in a society within such a small amount of time. Less than a year with constant media brainwashing, all of us essentially under house arrest, and look at us. Clearing out supermarkets and calling the police because "it's the right thing to do" and "they're putting society at risk".

Who else would you have turned in?

At what other point in history would you have colluded with the government to "do the right thing", without any thought for your fellow humans just being people?

They are students. They are broke, they have been confined to their box rooms almost a whole year. Have some heart for christs sake.

And by the way, I do believe in covid. I believe in staying home and wearing masks and doing the right thing. I would never grass though. Ever. And that goes for covid antics, benefit fraud, whatever. I believe people sometimes do what they need to do to survive physically or emotionally.

I think its terrifying what society has become in less than a year.

Who would have thought we would be living on a world where you would be standing in a little yellow circle traced out on a supermarket floor, and not an inch over if you please, else you'll be reported as a health threat!

Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

I'm not advocating for student parties, I'm advocating for looking away when you see one.

It's important to remember that there are plenty of sensible students out there, we just don't hear so much about them.

Friend's son lives in a shared student house and the four of them consider themselves a household and only went out together, not mixing with others, when it was allowed. All are going to have tests before going home for Christmas.

Thank goodness for the sensible ones.

philcornwall1 of course. Unless you’re suggesting all the media coverage about vaccines being found and being rolled out is fake news? It won’t be back to normal before Christmas obviously, but I would say going into 2021 normality will start to return.

@LastGoldenDaysOfSummer

It's important to remember that there are plenty of sensible students out there, we just don't hear so much about them.

Friend's son lives in a shared student house and the four of them consider themselves a household and only went out together, not mixing with others, when it was allowed. All are going to have tests before going home for Christmas.

Thank goodness for the sensible ones.

Exactly. They just quietly get on. That doesn't make a good press though.

But these and their families are the ones who will pay for the few being irresponsible. Sadly

I don't believe snitching is right are you Phil Mitchell do you speak in a whispery voice

I agree. Let's not forget if students hadn't gone to university what the consequences would be:
University's closing due to lack of funding resulting in less places when the previous darlings of today's parents teach 18.
Those students needing to claim benefits putting a huge strain on the tax payer. No jobs for students. Less qualified young people do less medical staff, teachers, etc in the future. More depression and mental health issues for young adults. Less income for the government from student loans being paid back.
I'm also sick and tired of being told be thankful I have a job. I am working my arse off and have done throughout this entire year. Dh has lost his job, no furlough. I'm having to spend approx £240 per month more to get to work due to covid restrictions plus spend an extra 30 hours commuting. There's also the possibility that I'll be taxed and therefore punished more to pay for the priviledge of working throughout this shot storm. I earn below average wage.

I have by and large stuck to the rules.
I don't agree with a 5 day bender at Christmas.
However, I am seeing my young adult dcs at Christmas come what may.
They wil come to my home.
If someone feels the need to report me for that then they had better pray to God that they don't need my essential services cos it won't be happening.

I think turning a blind eye is despicable frankly.

Why are some people assuming that those who are concerned about this virus feel that way because they mindlessly believe the government?

How is it that they can't accept that listening to experts and those with actual, lived experience of treating people with covid, losing family members and friends to covid and living with it 8 months down the line might know more than the person on YouTube talking about new world orders.

The psychological processes are totally different to those going on in nazi Germany - this trope is being dragged out because the sheep one is getting tired. The core differences being that a) this is a global pandemic, based on actual science, not eugenics (although if you want to draw parallels, talking about not being bothered about the virus because it only kills the elderly or vulnerable is more reminiscent of that particular school of thought) b) people are capable of critical thought, have access to lots of information to make their own decisions c) we're talking about not being able to party for a while, not fucking genocide!

I agree that things have changed in the last year and it's very sad, but what's most upsetting to my mind is that there are people out there who are so self obsessed that they a) think they know better than actual experts and will actively go out of their way to prove that they're not being controlled by the state even if this puts the community in danger and b) think their rights to do whatever the fuck they want trump someone else's right to life.

'don't believe snitching is right' 'are you Phil Mitchell do you speak in a whispery voice'

Exactly. Fgs tell your entitled kids to show some awareness and intelligence. I bet there's a direct correlation between parents who say 'snitch' and their awful offspring who do what they like

Bollocks there is

Personally never used the word snitched but saying that anyone that does probably has awful children is just ridiculous

@Livelovebehappy

philcornwall1 of course. Unless you’re suggesting all the media coverage about vaccines being found and being rolled out is fake news? It won’t be back to normal before Christmas obviously, but I would say going into 2021 normality will start to return.

I didn't suggest anything like that at all, but people saying "soon" all the time is just a wild guess as they've no more idea than anyone else.

@HesterShaw1

YANBU

I find it insane how the world seems to have been divided into two camps - the "selfish" and the "non-selfish". And the definition of both is extremely narrow and entirely related to Covid.

Even if the "selfish" people were model citizens up until March 2020 - if they helped in foodbanks, if they volunteered on beaches and in parks to clean up other people's litter, if they did whatever they could to reduce their carbon footprint to you know, help the environment and other people, if they did whatever they could to reduce plastic consumption - if they did all these things and more, if counts for nothing if they spent some time last week with their sister and her family because the loneliness and depression was breaking them. Selfish selfish selfish.

It's so fucked up.

Yes!

Out of curiosity, WHERE do you think school kids got the virus from?
You know, when an entire year group has to isolate (and some secondary schools here have shut entirely...)? So that's 120 children sent back home, 120 families impacted (or any multiple of 30 depending on your own school).

This little family gatherings, the little meeting between 2 sisters and the cousins who go to different schools, live in different areas. Do you think they have no impact?

Can you not comprehend how selfish that is?

Instead of banging on a totalitarian society and evil government, can you look around you and see the actual and real impact things have?

These 120 families, do you think the parents can all work from home or take time off? All the surgeries and medical procedure cancelled or postponed, not bothered about those either?

@Kazmerelda

We had a party in our street in the first lockdown. At least 40 people. Loud music over the whole weekend. Police were called by other neighbours. They came round a d said the music needs to turned down and people go home. Did it heck, went on until 7am that Sun morning

How do you know that this example can be nationally applied to all parties and all poilce attendancies?

Why would you think that your experience is universal experience?

*police attendances

Dss came home from uni some time ago as did all his bubble. They are now learning remotely despite paying a fortune for student accomodation. He got sick of being told to stay in his room 24/7 once one of the students had been in a lecture with another student from different accommodation Dss could not get a test so had to self isolate for 14 days. Everything was closed down, coffee bar, toilets etc. Couldn't get a slot from any of the nearest supermarkets so had to buy what was available on the campus, said it was like being in a prison except prisoners don't have to but their own food and can go out and exercise.

@PhilCornwall1

It's happening now...

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-this-treatment-gives-us-some-hope-meet-the-nurse-who-is-the-first-to-receive-new-antibody-cocktail-12138266?fbclid=IwAR10IzFgK-L-79MkwgNlo1BdFjSqwSgh1q7Fii_5TlMMMDuQiFHvY8d8JsU

Anyone else noticed op has now fucked off because hardly anyone agreed with her? Apart from others like altj who don't care if old people die?

@CakeRequired

Anyone else noticed op has now fucked off because hardly anyone agreed with her? Apart from others like altj who don't care if old people die?

50% of people agree with her. The intelligent half of society.

@CakeRequired
I'm still reading. Its split pretty evenly :)

The thing is schools are still open.
Where I live I see hoards of children on the school and college buses rammed in together.
I see them walking in close proximity not wearing madks , by passing the school so they can call for their mates. I see them in groups going into shops on their way to school.
We have had parents self isolating yet they have already been into work.
There are friends and family I won't have seen for over a year because of this.

I think the poll which is more or less 50/50 tells the story that about 50% are rule followers and 50% make judgements then act.

Neither will change the others mind through debate. I think people who are following the rules just because the govt have said it with no regard to their circumstances crazy. They would find my attitude arrogant and smug.

I think being at peace with my own decision making is much better than living a life of comparison and bitterness.

50% of people agree with her. The intelligent half of society.

Beg to differ on part of it. Intelligent part of the society wouldn't be stupid and disrespectful enough to copare this to the regimes you and others did.

Yes and no
I agree that the grassing is getting beyond the pale and what annoys me is the police will drive certain households potty and fall over themselves to arrive en masse yet others who constantly flout the rules are allowed to do as they please.
I've not grassed anyone, I don't see the point, but the community page online for my village are up in arms that one specific household has never once paid a blind bit of notice over lockdown or not having people in and they've been reported as they are also a huge noise nusiance late into the night. Not once did the police act.
Meanwhile, at the ends of the 1st lockdown we have a community centre that had been closed from March but we wanted to reopen as a hub, to use for food parcels and coordinate other help for the elderly. It's a central hub so it was perfect. We planned not to use the inside for obvious reasons so wanted to tidy up the large outdoor space.
A gang of 6 of us went, took 6 distanced areas from each other and went to work cutting back weeds and litter picking to make it tidy.
Some utter arsehole rang the police who turned up with 3- yes 3- police cars with two officers in each. They reported that a garden party was happening with 30 people.
The police couldn't see why we were cross and why we felt they had been heavy handed. They demanded to go indoors and check people weren't hiding. We said, we are all in dirty old stuff cleaning up at distance with 6 of us and a radio, does it look like a sodding party. We were still written up as "potential covid rule breakers" and warned if we were found again anywhere else we would be fined. I actually got quite upset and explained they had been lied to and if anything should take that up with the idiot who complained but no, they were extremely rude to us and all we had tried to do was sort out a safe space to help people out. They allowed us to finish up though but the ward council said we then couldn't open afterall as they were concerned at the polices behaviour.
So because one utter wanker complained and lied, lots of people potentially couldn't access help and had to travel to the next town over to ask for a food parcel.
We know who it was as he quite proudly announced he had "put an end to an illegal lockdown party" for "50+" as he put it on there. To say the mouthful he got from one of the lot who I was helping with is an understatement and frankly we told him if at some point you need shopping collecting don't you dare ask us.
He has put his house up for sale and good. No one has threatened him but I think he knew he wasn't welcome and had been a twat.

Unfortunately we live in a world where people can’t mind their own business and obviously all this spare time makes them have nothing better to do than report others for trying to carry on a normal life

@MillieVanilla see, THAT is shitty. Properly shit from the guy who reported you.