Disgusting

[StoneofDestiny]

AIBU to think it's disgusting that the pay of Nurses, Prison Officers, police, Teachers and other public service workers who have kept us safe despite the risk to themselves throughout this Covid year are the ones that get their pay frozen

Nurses are exempt

You are not being unreasonable.

Someone has to pay for it and hid forbid it's the rich.

Are there other people who did get rises then, as I didn't? Didn't think many would in the current climate. Not to say that a freeze for them is justified though

I think everyone would have kept working if they had the choice.

Public sector workers will still have their jobs in the next few years and beyond. Private sector is not so safe.

Upon reflection if you are comparing to MP's than definitely NBU

The school staff who worked through their holidays unpaid so that other key workers could still go to work should be exempt too. My DSis is a TA and she worked every day of the Easter holidays.

YANBU. I'm a TA and my 'salary' wouldn't even cover the rent alone where I live.

To be fair, a hell of a lot of other people will have no pay rise this year (again) who are private sector - just the government isn’t responsible for that.

Do I think some public sector workers are underpaid? Yes.
Would I love to see one off bonuses to though in the highest Covid risk roles, and would I be happy to pay for that via taxes? Yes.
Would I like to see tax avoiding large companies pinned down? Hell yes!
But do I think it’s fundamentally wrong to freeze pay for public sector workers at a time of huge unexpected pandemic cost and economic uncertainty? No, I don’t.

I’m still very sympathetic towards those who are underpaid, and admiring of those on the frontline though.

@sophandbridge

Every teacher I know either worked from Home doing a couple of hours a day or were pretty much furloughed - none worked unpaid/over time so I don't think you can apply the exemption to all teachers.

I believe nurses and doctors are exempt from this latest news but to be honest it should only apply to those that work front line. Again massive swathes of the NHS were much much quieter during first lockdown due to the suspension of all other treatment

Police etc well they didn't do any additional work and actually most have said that their job was easier as the night economy was shut down for months

Public sector jobs are the only ones likely to survive the massive redundancies

The prison officers are indoors with hundreds of confined people every day - no chance of social isolation, as if the risk they face every day wasn't bad enough.

@Cocomarine

To be fair, a hell of a lot of other people will have no pay rise this year (again) who are private sector - just the government isn’t responsible for that.

Do I think some public sector workers are underpaid? Yes.
Would I love to see one off bonuses to though in the highest Covid risk roles, and would I be happy to pay for that via taxes? Yes.
Would I like to see tax avoiding large companies pinned down? Hell yes!
But do I think it’s fundamentally wrong to freeze pay for public sector workers at a time of huge unexpected pandemic cost and economic uncertainty? No, I don’t.

I’m still very sympathetic towards those who are underpaid, and admiring of those on the frontline though.

Just quoting myself before someone accuse me of a race to the bottom! My point about about no private sector rise isn’t, “I don’t - so why should you?”. It’s just pointing out that money is difficult almost everywhere.

We've just found £16.6 billion pounds for new defence spending - while the enemy we still face is Covid.

@StartingGrid

Upon reflection if you are comparing to MP's than definitely NBU

Absolutely this!

@musicalfrog

I think everyone would have kept working if they had the choice.

Public sector workers will still have their jobs in the next few years and beyond. Private sector is not so safe.

I agree with your first point . But the local council where I live are making 400 staff redundant to save money. My friend in the civil service is going through her 6th restructure in the last 10 years. Public sector job security is no longer a thing in most cases.

@musicalfrog I’m a civil servant being made redundant next month. I pick up less money now than 12 years ago. So I don’t know where you get public sector don’t get made redundant and have had pay increases over the last 12 years

There's a lot of people in all jobs that have had a massively reduced income this year, we're all in this together.

At the end of the day, a huge amount has been spent this year and it needs paying for somehow

Every teacher I know either worked from Home doing a couple of hours a day or were pretty much furloughed - none worked unpaid/over time so I don't think you can apply the exemption to all teachers.

I'm a TA. I know a fair few teachers. Not sure how many you know OP. ALL of them worked unpaid over the Easter holidays to continue provide care for vulnerable and key worker children. They ALL worked very hard through lockdown. Please remember schools were never closed, the government restricted which children could attend. Your post is an inaccurate portrayal of teachers.
Teachers are spat at and assaulted by students on a regular basis. Some have been killed by their students. Remember that.

were in so much debt this is just the start. i didnt think we should go into lockdown and cost so much money but we did and this is the result.if i was making cuts id start with the benefits system which is unfairly unequal!

[quote Aurorie11]@musicalfrog I’m a civil servant being made redundant next month. I pick up less money now than 12 years ago. So I don’t know where you get public sector don’t get made redundant and have had pay increases over the last 12 years[/quote]
im calling bs on I pick up less money now than 12 years ago this cant be true

Every teacher I know either worked from Home doing a couple of hours a day or were pretty much furloughed - none worked unpaid/over time so I don't think you can apply the exemption to all teachers.

State school teachers and TAs weren't furloughed, it wasn't open to public sector staff in schools.

Yellowcatts

It’s quite common unfortunately when you factor in pay freezes (that went on for many years from 2010) and regrading from restructures. Especially for people at or near the bottom.

@yellowcatss not going to share my payslips but every year pay rise has been nil or 1% since 2008 massive increase in pension increases as scheme was changed with no choice and contribution rate much higher. I can assure you take home has dropped.

This is just one of the policies. Mark my words we are all going to be hit, rich, middle and poor. And the people who've lost their jobs? I think they'd like a salary that's frozen as opposed to none.

Many many many people have play important roles risked there lives in the private sector have not had pay rises for years ,its not just the public sector .
We have not borrowed so much money since the war it's down to where is the money going to come from.
More disgusted at the 6.1 billion a year the country loses due to benefit fraud and fraud against the NHS that would go a massive way to public sector pay rises .

If we are all in this together then everyone should be treated the same