AIBU to wonder when the riots begin?

[Perfect28]

Much more spending announced on 'defence' than eco policies, children growing up in poverty, dodgy contracts awarded to buddies and today pay freezes for public sector workers and a proven bully being supported in her role. All this on top of one of the worst covid death rates in the world. How much longer do we sit by idly?

Spring I reckon, once the consequences of Brexit and lockdown are really starting to bite. Not necessarily 'rioting' but mass protests and non-cooperation.

@the80sweregreat Depressing isn't it?

Would that proven bully be the one with no complaints against her be the one who is right wing, female and a bit brown?

If people wanted any different they wouldn't have voted Tory. End of story.

I think you need hot summer, shortages or price hikes around food staples and high youth unemployment - tends to be younger population thing- and some trigger event on top.

We live in a democracy. People voted in this shower of shitheads. Well done Tory voters. And if you didn’t know what you were voting for you shouldn’t be fucking voting. This is what Tories do, why is anyone surprised? They’re cunts.

We are not increasing military budgets because of potential internal threats. If you take a look at what's happening in the world you'll see that it's external threats that are our most serious threats and our defences are underfunded. It's not all about Covid/Brexit.

So you're suggesting a riot? Well it will probably begin when you decide to riot, won't it?

In answer to your OP, when Brexit or something else affects food availability enough to hit the threshold for the missed number of meals.

I think a mass toddler tantrum is more likely currently.

When are you going to start one?

[quote Perfect28]@dementedma can I just point out that the money for defence won't be going on pay rises for those workers. They will get a freeze. The money will be pumped into corporations (their buddies, like BAE systems) to develop more weapons etc. I don't want more money spent on weapons when our children are hungry and our schools and hospitals are overwhelmed and underfunded.[/quote]
Lets not forget those that were given the nod about this announcement in advance as evidenced by the share trading activity .....benefits of insider trading for Boris's mates.

Unlikely. British people aren't big rioters, especially the demographic that are most likely to be unhappy right now.
"We" voted these lot in. Possibly those who did are happy with the way things are going.
Also: but Corbyn.

No, probably increased moaning on places like MN and social media.

The spending increase is earmarked mainly for cyber and space, and not fun/pointless space stuff, but protecting satellites which facilitate much of our infrastructure now and connectivity. You can view most contracts that are awarded in the public sector online because of transparency, see then if you think that every contract goes to their mates. Also interested how you propose securing and utilising those proficient in cyber security, engineering, comms etc that we need on a CS salary in the numbers needed; or perhaps if there are valid instances where outside input is required.

The UK is a democracy and the country voted for a Tory government led by a dishonest, untrustworthy buffoon just 11 months ago. The people who voted for Johnson and his cronies knew exactly what they were voting for and still gave him a landslide in England outside the M25.

I’m not expecting riots, but I do expect the break-up of the UK. The Scots have had enough, there is widespread resentment at being dragged out of the EU by English Tories, and they will almost certainly vote for independence at the next opportunity.

This is Britain. There won't be riots. In 2024 if there is any possibility of the Tories losing, Mr Johnson will step down. Then the Tories will use various 'red scare' tactics, or that voting Labour means a Labour/SNP arrangement (so rule by Scots). Or a story about a decision made whilst Keir Starmer was DPP designed to smear him. Many of those who hate the Tories will not turn out to vote, the boundaries will be re-drawn which favours them.

I worry that there might be problems if we do drift into no deal, and fresh food supplies get delayed, so rot in the ports. If there's a combination of poverty, job losses, and then food shortages, that might be possible. I hope it doesn't because it won't solve anything and will just make life scarier for other people struggling.

If the Tories do get voted in again in a few years, though, I think I'll lose faith in anything any more.

@Lepetitpiggy

I also want to know what the hell we can do. I've begun to feel so gloomy that I almost dont want to go on. Why are we letting a bunch of bullies treat us like this? I suppose it's because we blindly hope that they may one day be right and also most of us are too busy surviving. It's awful

Yes it is They have us right where they want us What NS is doing in Scotland is appalling

perfect you can stamp your feet if you want, but the rest of us will just pour a glass of wine this evening, and watch a good boxset.

Trying to encourage rioting is quite faintly ridiculous, why not try QAnon?

They might be up for it, the rest of us not so much.

Labour have only been in power for 13 years since 1979. We're a Tory, right wing country, face it.
If the Scots leave, this is even more certain.

Brexit talks are still ongoing and I’m not convinced yet there won’t be a deal.

Having said that, there is currently wide-spread discontent within the EU over Brussells’ handling of support during the pandemic as well as the fact that vaccination numbers are going to be limited based on the fact that the EU order in an amount and every country needs to put forward their case for the number they feel they need, as opposed to the UK who have ordered independently.

Scotland aren’t going anywhere. There isn’t going to be another referendum and NS doesn’t do anything in leadership apart from to bleat on and on about independence. But in the event they did go, they won’t last five minutes and the EU won’t want them. So good luck with that.

In terms of COVID Scotland are actually much closer to England’s way of doing things than Northern Ireland and Wales, NS just delays her reaction a couple of days to make herself look like an independent leader.

And look, England and Scotland figures are starting to stabilise, whereas Wales and Northern Ireland are increasing. And who said a two week firebreak was a good idea....

Rioting would involve quite a lot of people accepting that they were wrong about Brexit, Boris Johnson and the Torys and that those of us who've been shouting from the rooftops about all of this for the last 4 years might actually have been right. It is quite a big climb down for some who still make excuses for Boris Johnson in the way long suffering mothers do for wayward sons, saying that 'poor old Boris' has not been the same since he had Covid. News flash he has always been shit.

The UK is a democracy. If the people want change they can vote for it. Only muppets think rioting is in any way meritted or worthwhile. So yes, a few muppets might take to the streets but not in sufficient numbers to do anything worth worrying about. We have hard times ahead no doubt but spreading scare stories predicting mass civil unrest is the stuff of nonsense.

@deydododatdodontdeydo
We're not actually a right-wing country, that's the really sad thing. Whenever researchers have asked people about policies without any parties attached, it's all the left-wing ones that are popular (eg. NHS, free education, maternity and paternity leave, decent wages, libraries, social services, access to public spaces, better public transport infrastructure, etc. All of them left wing policies).

It's because the media in this country are so dominated by very right-wing owners who have systematically ridiculed or rubbished ideas that in other countries in Europe are actually quite centre-left, and made people vote against their own best interests.