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Vaccine-feeling worried

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2020yearfromhell · 11/11/2020 20:36

I’m feeling really worried about this gradual
push to possibly have to have the vaccine, they say they won’t force us, but will likely make you unable to travel, go to festivals etc etc without it, so basically it is almost as if we’re being forced.
Why the sudden rush through of it and such a need for it from day one.
Anyone else feeling nervous? I really don’t want it as no idea what it is.

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NiceGerbil · 11/11/2020 23:14

Why are there so many of these threads?

The one vaccine that looks good still isn't through all the hoops.
It needs very specialist storage so that's going to be a logistical issue when delivering
They can't make enough to vaccinate everyone in the world very quickly, obviously. So it will (should) go to countries with most need first (less ability for people to keep apart) and high risk groups. I mean capitalism might fuck that up but I hope not. Either way. It'll be a good long while.

So why are people getting so worked up now? About Ticketmaster?! There haven't been any festivals due to covid, in case you missed that. With vaccine even if they restrict, at least some can get back out there! Personal choice.

I'd have 20 sodding vaccines if it meant getting back to normal. This distancing etc has fucked my mental health and I know I'm not alone.

Dongdingdong · 11/11/2020 23:23

It’s fascinating how many posters are falling over themselves to get vaccinated with this rushed through miracle drug. No way will myself or my family be accepting any vaccine until I’m 100% satisfied that it’s safe. Until that happens, I’d rather take my chances.

Gancanny · 11/11/2020 23:27

Its not rushed. The steps involved in the development process have been expedited due to more or less unlimited funding and the ability to run stages concurrently but none of the safety protocols or trials have been skipped. A large body of research into RNA vaccines and vaccines for coronaviruses existed before the pandemic and a lot of it was applicable to the vaccine development so the scientists working on it weren't starting from scratch.

Slippy78 · 11/11/2020 23:29

[quote 2020yearfromhell]@AcornAutumn Agree with your all your points. I’m gobsmacked how quickly they’re passing through all the laws on festival entry, travel insurance etc. It’s been so rushed through, I’m genuinely frightened, never before has any vaccine had all these rules attached to it, it’s bizarre.[/quote]
What laws are you on about?
There aren't any. All of the companies that you've mentioned are private, that can make whatever decisions they want regarding the customers they wish to deal with...

Ysgutxx · 11/11/2020 23:30

@Dongdingdong

It’s fascinating how many posters are falling over themselves to get vaccinated with this rushed through miracle drug. No way will myself or my family be accepting any vaccine until I’m 100% satisfied that it’s safe. Until that happens, I’d rather take my chances.
Unfortunately you taking your chances forces others to take your chances too. That's a really tricky thing with the Covid situation. Many other choices in life have much less affect on others, so it's easier to make a choice that benefits your family without risking other people.

Nothing in life is ever 100% safe. Even the seat belt that most people accept to wear when driving very very occasionally does more harm than good.

dottiedaisee · 11/11/2020 23:36

I work in a care home and from chatting with the staff...who are all switched on! They along with anyone who is intelligent, question the long term side effects?

Duemarch2021 · 11/11/2020 23:37

Urgh i dont want it... not yet.. maybe in a few years once its been tried and tested. I wasn't aware we'd be forced to have it

LastTrainEast · 11/11/2020 23:38

@2020yearfromhell

I’m feeling really worried about this gradual push to possibly have to have the vaccine, they say they won’t force us, but will likely make you unable to travel, go to festivals etc etc without it, so basically it is almost as if we’re being forced. Why the sudden rush through of it and such a need for it from day one. Anyone else feeling nervous? I really don’t want it as no idea what it is.
There's a virus killing people. Google it.

Also look up Vaccine in the dictionary.

MoonJelly · 11/11/2020 23:38

I really don’t want it, my anxiety’s heightened even thinking about it

And the thought of catching Covid doesn't make you anxious?

I’m genuinely frightened, never before has any vaccine had all these rules attached to it, it’s bizarre

Not sure if you've noticed, but we haven't had a pandemic like this for 100 years.

Duemarch2021 · 11/11/2020 23:39

@Ysgutxx

Yep! And air bags!

WithGusto2 · 11/11/2020 23:40

@Michaelschofield 😂🤣😂😬😬😬😬 you need to lay off the weed babes!

MoonJelly · 11/11/2020 23:41

If ticketmaster make it mandatory to have the vaccine before attending events then they will lose a lot. In a poll recently it was 50/50 of people who would and wouldn't have the vaccine

But the chances are that if they don't, they will have to operate social distancing inside the venue which will mean they can only sell around 25% of the tickets anyway.

Venues might put in place a requirement but it's not a law and it's likely to be completely impossible to police. How will a venue know if you have had the vaccine

It may well be the case that vaccinated people are issued with certificates which they would be required to show when booking for big events.

LastTrainEast · 11/11/2020 23:44

@Dongdingdong

It’s fascinating how many posters are falling over themselves to get vaccinated with this rushed through miracle drug. No way will myself or my family be accepting any vaccine until I’m 100% satisfied that it’s safe. Until that happens, I’d rather take my chances.
"until that happens everyone around me will have to take their chances"

There! fixed it.

pigsDOfly · 11/11/2020 23:45

So many people saying they won't have the vaccine.

As Gancanny says all the stages of development have been adhered to nothing has been skipped or rushed.

Anyway, chances are it'll be some time before a large percentage of the population will even have a chance to have it.

You say you're 43 OP, I take it you have no underlying conditions, sorry haven't read the whole thread, so you and others like you are going to be way down on the list.

I'm 72 have high blood pressure and a related heart issue but otherwise am fit and healthy so would be amongst the early ones eligible for the vaccine once it's been passed for use.

Personally I can't wait for a vaccine that offers me some measure of protection.

I'd just like what remains of my life not to have to be spent in a series of lockdowns during which I'm never seeing my family. It's no way to live. I certainly wouldn't refuse to have something that could get us someway towards a better way of living.

MoonJelly · 11/11/2020 23:45

More people die from cancer than covid every day.

Nope. When the pandemic was at its height, covid was killing twice as many.

MoonJelly · 11/11/2020 23:46

[quote 2020yearfromhell]@Heyahun And possibly airlines/flights abroad too? I live abroad and would like to actually be able to travel over to see my family at some point.[/quote]
Easy to sort out - get vaccinated.

Gancanny · 11/11/2020 23:48

WRT to side effects showing up years later, that's not really how vaccines work. Side effects, even serious ones, tend to show up relatively soon after the vaccination is given and the vast majority of them are mild such as tenderness at the injection site. Serious adverse reactions are incredibly rare and side effects appearing several years later even rarer still. This is not the first vaccine ever developed and the science behind vaccines shows that they are very safe.

TibetanTerrier · 11/11/2020 23:51

@BendingSpoons
I'm NHS and I'll be having the vaccination when offered it. Things have moved on a long way since 1976.

And if you properly research 1976 you find that it was fake news in the tabloids, wrong base statistics and inept management that warped it into something it wasn't. (e.g. using figures for expected seasonal deaths and not 'excess deaths' so people who died were expected to die anyway without the vaccine). No deaths or serious side-effects were ever proven to be due to the vaccine. Not for nothing is the rollout of that one called a fiasco.

SheepandCow · 12/11/2020 00:00

@AcornAutumn

Sheep “ I know your game btw OP. Is the government paying you to deter people? That's one way of reducing demand for a very oversubscribed product. What's your payment? Jump the queue for the vaccine?”

Now THAT’S a conspiracy!

Gilead - it’s not that straightforward though is it? You will always get doctors with completely opposite ideas on how to treat the same disease.

I meant to call it a night but couldn't resist popping back in. I'm really proud. My first full blown conspiracy! What shall I say next?

Seriously though, people like you OP are, however inadvertently, doing the government a big favour.

There's not nearly enough supply.

You don't want it? Good! All the more for everybody else. There's a very long queue.

As for the extremely rare side effects of a vaccine. Most of us take paracetamol without thinking. A tiny number suffer rare side effects. Then there's nuts. A minority have life threatening allergies. The rest of us enjoy nuts as part of a healthy balanced diet.

Compare that to the huge numbers of deaths from Covid, and the people suffering potential long-term disability from Long Covid (not a tiny number of cases, because the NHS doesn't splash out on UK-wide treatment clinics for tiny numbers).

BungleandGeorge · 12/11/2020 00:20

Children (over 5 I think) were actually eligible for one of the vaccine trials on the UK. Might have been the Oxford one, I did wonder at the time if any parents would be willing though.

Flipsockflop · 12/11/2020 00:36

I know someone who has Covid for the 2nd time, he’s a health care worker and was very ill in april with it and has now tested positive again (so far without symptoms). Can someone explain how the immunisation is expected to work if you can catch Covid multiple times, that’s not sarcastic or goady btw I tried to google but couldn’t find the answer.

Gancanny · 12/11/2020 07:35

A vaccine is basically a controlled viral load and is set at the amount needed to provoke the required level of immune response. With this vaccine you get two doses, three weeks apart, you get one measured dose of viral load and then another very shortly after so it gives a higher level of immunity than catching covid does. Even so, it has been stated that this immunity will wane so I'd expect that in years to come the covid vaccine will be bundled with the flu vaccine and it'll be a 2-in-1 vaccine of flu+covid or when getting your flu jab into one arm you'll get your covid jab into the other arm during the same appointment.

NotTheRealAngelaFernandez · 12/11/2020 07:39

I've always been a bit funny about vaccinations (a separate thread). But if Dr Fauci recommended it, I would absolutely have the vaccine. And it makes total sense to ban people from festivals and planes if they won't have it.

Peace43 · 12/11/2020 07:46

I work in medicines licensing and the speed of vaccine development is not because safety considerations have been ignored but because of the huge amounts of money and focus on the need for this specific vaccine. Medicines Agencies have pushed review of this to the front of the queue. Pfizer didn’t spend months/years trying to develop a non-freezer formulation. People were keen to sign up for clinical trials meaning faster recruitment.

I’m advising my vulnerable and old family members to have this vaccine and I will do so as soon as I can. I’m happy for anyone else to decline.... means I get to the front of the queue faster!!