Vaccine-feeling worried

[2020yearfromhell]

I’m feeling really worried about this gradual
push to possibly have to have the vaccine, they say they won’t force us, but will likely make you unable to travel, go to festivals etc etc without it, so basically it is almost as if we’re being forced.
Why the sudden rush through of it and such a need for it from day one.
Anyone else feeling nervous? I really don’t want it as no idea what it is.

So if you don’t want it don’t have it....simple really...but let others make their own choice.

My mother didn’t want me to have the Whooping Cough vaccine when I was a child. Was dreadfully ill with Whooping Cough and it left me with damaged lungs which have made me much more vulnerable to Covid.

I want my life back and I’ll be right at the front of the queue for it when it’s my turn.

@Tyzz I’m not an anti vaccinations, I’ve had all the usual ones throughout my life, my daughter too, this one I feel nervous about.

@Heyahun

If you don’t want to have the vaccine then you just have to put up with another year of this lifestyle then - your choice I guess!

I bloody love festivals, clubbing, travel - so anything I can do to get back to that ASAP I’m in! The vaccine is not being “rushed” - it’s still ages away by the sounds of it!! The whole world is affected that’s why it’s so urgent to get it out !

I don’t know what people
Want - one minute it’s moaning about lockdown and how they won’t comply any further and want their old life back - Then a possibility of That happening Is mentioned and it’s - oh no wont be having anything to do with thatc 🙄

I find it really alarming that people think this way

It’s not a choice between lockdown or vaccine, there are plenty of paths in between.

@EstuaryBird I’m not stopping others make their own choices? 😟I wish I felt confident in it like some others do, it would stop a lot of anxiety

@onemachine

How can anyone say there are no long term effects without having tested it over a long term? Why has the government needed to remove any aspect of liability from the drug companies if it is, as they say, safe?

Really surprised how nobody on here seems to care for our basic human rights anymore. People should be able to have a choice, whether you agree with their opinion or not, it’s their body. Shouldn’t we all be supporting that?

After all, you don’t see exercise and healthy eating mandatory but that would arguably go a long way to reducing diabetes, heart disease and some cancers, which are the biggest killers (yes, all above Covid)

Exactly this 👏🏻👏🏻

@onemachine You do have a choice - your rights aren’t being taken away -
privately run concerts & events also have a choice of the conditions of entry too - they can say you need the vaccine to come in if they like

@Trousersareoverrated

Too right you shouldn’t be able to go to places where you will put others in danger just because you have chosen to not get vaccinated. Keep living the way we are right now and let the people who have done the right thing and got the vaccine live their lives.

but if you have the vaccine you will be okay so won't be in danger

Why don’t you feel confident OP?
I’m aware that it’s a new vaccine.
I am aware that vaccinations can have rare side effects.
I also know I’m very much at risk if I get COVID due to health issues.
I really hope I’m offered a vaccination!

50000 people have died in the U.K.

Think about it ok.

The vaccine is going through the same rigorous testing and regulatory process all vaccines and drugs go through. We have some of the most remarkable people on the planet working on this and ensuring we can come out of this pandemic in the next few months but the OP is worried. Well I’m sorry but you are being ridiculous. I know people who are working to produce drugs and vaccines and this attitude fucks me right off. If you knew what they are doing to save lives you wouldn’t talk such nonsense.

@Trousersareoverrated

Too right you shouldn’t be able to go to places where you will put others in danger just because you have chosen to not get vaccinated. Keep living the way we are right now and let the people who have done the right thing and got the vaccine live their lives.

The people who are vaccinated will be surely be safe as that is supposedly why they'd be having it. Why would the fact that other people haven't had it stop your vaccination working?

@Heyahun And possibly airlines/flights abroad too? I live abroad and would like to actually be able to travel over to see my family at some point.

I used to work in research and my Trust is running vaccine trials. Everything is being done properly and thoroughly - but money and people are being flung at this, so of course it is moving much faster than normal. Because there is a pandemic on.

I'm likely to be offered the Pfizer vaccine before the spring, and I will be having it. My colleagues around me feel exactly the same.

www.ft.com/content/d2e00128-7889-4d5d-84a3-43e51355a751

Less than half the population will get the vaccine.

“Ms Bingham said the government was aiming to vaccinate about 30m people, compared with a UK population of about 67m,if a successful vaccine against Covid-19 was found.

“People keep talking about ‘time to vaccinate the whole population’, but that is misguided,” she said. “There’s going to be no vaccination of people under 18. It’s an adult-only vaccine, for people over 50, focusing on health workers and care home workers and the vulnerable.”

So how will venues be able to mandate a vaccine when most people won’t even get the vaccine?

@sst1234

Wind up thread

I was just thinking this. There was a similar one last night.

@2020yearfromhell

I’m feeling really worried about this gradual push to possibly have to have the vaccine, they say they won’t force us, but will likely make you unable to travel, go to festivals etc etc without it, so basically it is almost as if we’re being forced. Why the sudden rush through of it and such a need for it from day one. Anyone else feeling nervous? I really don’t want it as no idea what it is.

You don’t get the rush?

What has made your 2020 a year of hell? Has it been Covid control measures?

Without the vaccine 2021 will be as bad if not worse!

We need people to take it for the common good to stop overwhelming our hospitals and get our lives back!

@AcornAutumn I'd be interested to hear what the specific concerns are that your medical family have.

I'm sorry to hear of your father, but I'm not sure what you're insinuating regarding younger doctors. I'm not a particularly young doctor; I'm in my 30's. My colleagues are aged between 23 at newly qualified and mid 60's. What does the age of me or my colleagues have to do with confidence in the covid vaccine?

I'm yet to hear a concern more specific than that it 'seems a bit fast'.

If course it's fast- vast sums of money have been poured into this, along with tens of thousands of volunteers.

But if your family have valid concerns about a specific aspect of the way the vaccine has been developed, or the safety/regulatory laws in the UK, let me know because perhaps I'll be concerned too.

but if you have the vaccine you will be okay so won't be in danger

This is always trotted out by anti-vaxxers, or "vaccine skeptics" as they like to call themselves now (tomato/tomahto...)

Its crap.

Unvaccinated people are disease vectors and the more disease vectors you have, the more a disease can circulate. The more it circulates, the higher the risk of mutation which would render the vaccine less effective if not useless. That's not even considering that there are people who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons or who have lost their previous immunities due to medical reasons or for whom the vaccine hasn't taken (because no vaccine has 100% efficacy). The more the disease circulates amongst the willfully unvaccinated, the more likely it is they will infect one of these people. This is the selfishness inherent in vaccine resistance and vaccine refusal.

Take your choice not to be vaccinated but accept that a side effect of this choice will be restrictions placed on your ability to access specific venues and events.

@2020yearfromhell your want to go abroad without being vaccinated does not supersede the more important right of someone not to be infected with Covid. A lot of people rely on herd immunity as they can’t get the vaccine themselves.

Excellent post @Gancanny

I think people should relax a little around the possible necessity of needing to be vaccinated to attend festivals etc. It's going to be a long while before the healthy under 45's are able to be vaccinated, and I suspect the organisers of download and similar aren't rubbing their hands together at the thought they'll be able to resume normality when the over 65's are all vaccinated.

@NottinghamForestFan why are you questioning the motives of someone with concerns based on the same school of science?

@dietingtomorrow same place half of mumsnet seem to have got their science from throughout covid

I'm actually quite glad that a lot of people will refuse to have the vaccine. Because it means there will be more of it to go round for the people who do want it.

I am in awe of the incredible work done by the scientists, we’re so lucky to have them in this world, and so grateful to the people who’ve volunteered in the trials.

That said, I’m glad to be low priority in the queue, and am so relieved they’re not proposing to roll this out to children any time soon!

Everyone involved is human, and each step is being pushed through at break-neck speed, as the different competitors race to the finish line. My worry is mistakes can be made or possible unintended consequences overlooked.

And statistics can be manipulated so easily to say different things, so I will be hoping to see studies with raw data.

I’m sure any risks of the vaccine will be tiny by the time this gets approved, and it will be worth the elderly or vulnerable getting it.

But the risk of COVID to my children is basically zero. So I would feel uncomfortable about subjecting them to even a 1 in a million risk in a vaccine.

@2020yearfromhell Well yeah - airlines are also private companies so can make their own rules too! I live abroad as well and haven’t seen my family since last Christmas either so I know how you feel

But private companies can make their own rules and restrictions and if you don’t comply then you can’t travel.

Ticketmaster can say what they want, but if it isn't offered to the part of the population that mostly uses their services they may well change their mind.

I will have it when it becomes available to me.

Really well said @Gancanny