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To be worried that Biden could be worse than Trump

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almondfingers22 · 09/11/2020 18:37

Regarding foreign policy that is. I worry that Biden could be more hawk like than Trump and start or get involved in lots of wars? But I’m so pleased Trump is going, i couldn’t stand the man and I remember when he first got in I was petrified he’d start the next big war. But he didn’t and now I worry if Biden will be the one.

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pointythings · 12/11/2020 19:37

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Saying I found the videos triggering and icky doesn’t make me a right wing trump lover It’s just being a human
Fair enough, but automatically believing they are genuine makes you not sceptical enough.
Thisisworsethananticpated · 12/11/2020 19:47

It’s somewhat challenging to NOT believe them ! I’d rather not believe me
But clip after clip of him being handy and those poor girls and their uncomfortable faces
If someone faked them , I’ll stand corrected

What suprised me was how triggering it was , I’ve worked with so many men like that
And came across them as a girl
🤮

pointythings · 12/11/2020 19:51

Well, at least one of them has been thoroughly debunked, and of course if you go looking for something like that, you aren't coming into it with an open mind. What interests me is why people seem to want to believe ill of Biden, and actively go out of their way to find content that supports their beliefs.

Me, I am going with the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty. And I've been handsed myself more than once.

ListeningQuietly · 12/11/2020 19:59

Biden I have never heard of, apart from clips of him stroking children on YouTube.
If you had never heard of Biden then you must have lived under a rock between 2008 and 2016

Parker231 · 12/11/2020 20:06

Biden hugging a young boy giving comfort. Can you imagine Trump being that genuinely sympathetic.

LadyWithLapdog · 12/11/2020 20:20

Thank you for that video.

I wonder what sources the above posters had. QAnon and the like?

Parker231 · 12/11/2020 20:29

This is how you want the leaders of the country to behave. Trump doesn’t seem to understand respect and teamwork with your colleagues - he just sacks anyone who disagrees with him.

LadyWithLapdog · 12/11/2020 20:39

👏

PimpleMoose · 12/11/2020 21:04

Parker231 and others.

Please stop posting heartwarming videos of Biden comforting young boys, this is a thread for posters to indulge in their fantasies about Biden praying on young girls. Keep on-narrative please.

ListeningQuietly · 12/11/2020 21:17

You'll hate this one then Grin

Thisisworsethananticpated · 12/11/2020 21:18

Oh sweet jesus
Saying he behaves inappropriately doesn’t make me a trump lover
Or a fantasist
Or a signed up member
Of the KKK

I’m just fed up of old white Men running stuff and this is another nail
In the coffin ⚰️ For me

I

DeeCeeCherry · 12/11/2020 21:21

Probably a bit of an irrational fear, but probably because I had such an awful fear of Trump, because he was such a loose canon, but nothing happened

This makes no sense whatsoever. What does it even mean - gut feeling or something?

You know very well Biden has done nothing warlike and you won't get your 'Hes far worse than Trump!" thread

Thisisworsethananticpated · 12/11/2020 21:36

you won't get your 'Hes far worse than Trump!" thread

Nah that’s not what I’m saying
Not what I want , we need a change it was totally and utterly toxic

But it was more than faintly depressing to read he also uses his hands too much with the ladies

It’s depressing

LadyWithLapdog · 12/11/2020 21:42

@Thisisworsethananticpated he doesn’t. Why did you get it in your head he does? What part of you is satisfied to believe this?

DeeCeeCherry · 12/11/2020 22:01

Thisisworsethananticipate I was addressing the OP. Or are you the OP and have name changed halfway through thread?

Whichever one it is it just sounds like looking for ways to present Biden as the same or worse than Trump.

Are you in UK? I'd have thought the antics of Prince Andrew along the lines you've mentioned, numerous MPs, + Boris Babyfather would be the most depressing. If this post is about sexual assay then OK, but it wasn't made clear albeit I don't think it was about that in the 1st place...

Can't have Trump back though, he's gone and that's that

pointythings · 12/11/2020 22:01

LadyWithLapdog this is part of a propaganda war that has been waged against Joe Biden since he became the Democratic candidate. There's this, there's the accusations that he has dementia, there's the slurs around his son Hunter. It's been done very thoroughly, very persuasively, using social media with considerable skill.

And people want to believe it. I have no idea why, but they do. Maybe it's part of an idea that any man is capable of being a sexual predator. We live in a world where nursery staff can barely hug a crying toddler - especially if they're a male nursery worker. It's desperately sad - people seem to want to assume guilt rather than innocence.

throughawindowdarkly · 12/11/2020 22:03

I think that was a more valid concern with Hilary Clinton as she was seen as tied up with interests gunning for war with Iran. I haven’t heard the same about Biden.

Cacacoisfarraige · 12/11/2020 22:39

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amusedtodeath1 · 12/11/2020 22:42

Biden has dogs, rescue dogs, he's already talking about unity and bringing people together. My guess is he's way better than Trump.Grin

augustusglupe · 12/11/2020 22:47

Somerford

Yes, very good point!!

EKGEMS · 13/11/2020 01:19

He could burn down an orphanage on Christmas Eve and not be as bad as Trump

ClareBlue · 13/11/2020 01:39

Nobody likes Trump as a man but anybody tell me exactly what policies he implemented that you do not like. I am not defending him but most do not know what he actually did in4 years. Not the media perception. What he actually did.

Blueberries0112 · 13/11/2020 01:50

Who knows, I hope not! It is my worst fear but I don't know who start war first but one always have to clean up the mess

Blueberries0112 · 13/11/2020 01:54

He have been in politics since 1973, we can easy see how he felt about past wars (I haven't checked yet so who knows) buts that is what is great about someone who have a history in politics, it is hard to tell what Trump could do because he never ran for an office except presidential

ClareBlue · 13/11/2020 02:01

You got to think what is toxic. Obama spending billions supporting a war that does not threaten sovereignty that kills thousands of innocent people or Trump making sexist comments. Probably doesn't matter as much because they are only children far away where as a sexist comment offends us all.

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