Page 11 | Aibu? Are you really following lockdown rules?

CoronaOneSoz · 2020-11-08T13:36:59+00:00

I work and kids are at school but I've been following the lockdown rules. Not met anyone. I know I could bubble up as I'm a single parent. Anyway i spoke to my sister and parents today and they have all met up together. Sister has 2 kids and a husband, the kids go to school and they both work. My parents are still relatively young and work, no health issues. They also still have my other sister at home who also works. I was abit shocked but they just laughed and said they don't care they will still meet up. I'm not pissed off I'm more disappointed with them. Aibu for feeling like that? Just been told I need to lighten up as i told them they are breaking the rules.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 08/11/2020 17:09

DH and I are following the rules, as we did before. I hope enough people will do their bit to get his over quickly. We're desperate to be able to visit MIL for Christmas as we haven't seen her since this all started, and she's very lonely. SIL and BIL live an easy drive away from MIL, but they act as if there's no pandemic, so for once I'm glad they rarely visit her.

Grapewrath · 08/11/2020 17:13

I work in education so I’m with hundreds of people all day. I’m not having parties or anything but if I want to have a cuppa with a friend in my garden I will.
I don’t care what others do.

feellikeanalien · 08/11/2020 17:13

I am generally. I do actually talk to some of the other mums on the school run but it's outside and we stand apart.

Much as I love DD I do crave some adult conversation.

PolarBearStrength · 08/11/2020 17:14

We’ve sort of formed a childcare bubble with my parents (and my brother by default as he lives with them). Technically we don’t NEED childcare as DH is furloughed and I’m on maternity leave but I had a baby on Wednesday and we just feel that we need a bit more support. We’re going to ‘move in’ to my parents house for the rest of lockdown at the start of the week.

CatNoBag · 08/11/2020 17:19

Yes I am, but it isn't a big change for me on my normal life anyway! My family don't live nearby, so I only see them when I travel to visit them (only once this year since the first lockdown). I might arrange to meet friends occasionally, but not lately. I normally swim, but obviously can't at the moment. I do meet one person for outdoor a few times a week, but that's it. All shopping online, work from home (not new for me) and basically only leave the house to go for walks with my partner or to meet one person for outdoor exercise.

mangothoughts · 08/11/2020 17:19

We as a family are following the rules but I know of, and have seen, lots of people that are not.

We need to face up to the fact we live in a country where a significant number of our population, I might even go as far as saying the majority, do not have a social conscience. They do not care about people dying as it is not their mother/father/brother/sister etc. They are only concerned with what affects their own lives as those of their direct family/friends.

I do understand that many have extra pressures in terms of income or job losses or mental health but there are many thousands of people who are ignoring the rules because they are just plain selfish or don't like being told what to do. If EVERYONE stuck to the rules in the first lockdown, during the rule of six and during the local lockdowns we would be in a far better position than we are in now.

yelyah22 · 08/11/2020 17:20

We are. My mum and sister aren't.

LakieLady · 08/11/2020 17:21

Thank you, @OhTheRoses.

TattiePants · 08/11/2020 17:22

We’re following 99% of the rules. The only one we’ve broken is DM helped us garden yesterday. She brought her own tools, stayed outside and we were always 2+ metres apart so absolutely no risk.

TravellingSpoon · 08/11/2020 17:24

I am following the rules because I want this to be over as quickly as possible. I also work with extremely vulnerable adults with a range of health needs and would feel beyond guilty if I passed it on to them.

fastandthecurious · 08/11/2020 17:25

Yes although you wouldn't bloody think it. Had to isolate 2 weeks ago for 3 days while I took a test and waited for results, now it's looking likely that I'll have to isolate again as my mum is off for a test today with symptoms and she's in my childcare bubble and had my DS on Friday whilst I worked so if she tests positive it'll be 2 weeks off work again. Very worried of work getting annoyed with it tbh although obviously there's nothing I can do.

LuaDipa · 08/11/2020 17:25

I’m following the rules. My dm thinks I am ridiculous as I refuse to see her. Aside from lockdown, the kids are mixing with other kids at school and I don’t want to put her at risk. She is still going out on a daily basis to shop, grab a coffee or just potter. She is also seeing various other elderly relatives, in her/their homes, not even outside.

I have to try to force myself not to worry about her. She is overweight and not young. But she is also an adult and perfectly capable of making her own choices. She is aware of the risks, even if she thinks they don’t apply to her. I can only control myself and my little family so that is what I focus on.

wizzywig · 08/11/2020 17:27

Yes I am, and I'm desperate for a hotel/ holiday home break

Branleuse · 08/11/2020 17:28

[quote PurpleDaisies]@Branleuse
This is what I am taking issue with.
Most people who she was sofa surfing with over the last few years are not able to help because of covid rules and its actually put her in quite a dangerous position

The covid rules allow for people who are homeless to stay with anyone who is willing to have them. If people are unwilling or unable to help out that’s totally fine, but it is wrong to state that it is because of the lockdown rules. I wasn’t saying it’s your responsibility to sort out your friend’s life. Your post read like you wanted her to stay but the nasty government was preventing you. That is not the case. It is your decision.

If anyone is reading this thread wondering if a homeless friend or someone in an unsafe position can stay with you, you should be clear that they absolutely can.[/quote]
I didnt know that actually, thats interesting. I thought the only way I could do it was if I support bubbled up with her, which would mean I couldnt see my partner who lives elsewhere.

but no, Id rather she didnt stay, id rather she was housed elsewhere, but there is a housing crisis which is complicated.

Anyway, I already told her that i would have had her staying here if she was just staying here and not going out seeing other people, but actually she has a chaotic lifestyle and needs proper housing.
Im not sure why youre taking a funny tone with me about it. Ive done a huge amount for her and I have a family of my own. I was literally just answering the OPs question about which of the lockdown rules we hadnt followed.
As for nasty government. Yes they bloody are nasty and shit and useless when it comes to the homelessness crisis and covid has made things a lot worse, but thats probably a different thread isnt it

MsAwesomeDragon · 08/11/2020 17:29

I'm following all the rules here. Nobody else in our house, and none of us going into anyone else's house.

Unfortunately, that doesn't lessen my risks at all as far as I can see. I am a teacher in a secondary school, so have 4/5 different classes every day. I can't control what they and their families do, and that is my biggest risk factor. If a pupil sitting on my front row of desks comes in when they are infected (before symptoms/asymptomatic case) then I can not be 2m away from them at all times, because that's just not possible in my classroom. So I am attempting to accept that I will quite probably catch it at some point. That makes me MORE likely to follow the rules outside of work, because I think of myself as possibly infectious at all times, and I definitely don't want to pass it on to anyone more at risk than I am.

The last time I saw my parents was in June. I don't want to go and see them unless I can self isolate for 2 weeks beforehand. I couldn't live with myself if I passed it to them, as they are so much less likely to survive than I am (both are ECV, and over 70)

dancinfeet · 08/11/2020 17:30

I'm following the rules, only spending time with my one other person in support bubble and youngest DD who is a teenager and going out only when necessary, having the bulk of my groceries delivered and so on. Have said though, that if eldest DD has any problems she is welcome to come home from college for the weekend (she hasn't so far) as she has had mental health problems in the past. She is coping ok with lockdown so far, but if she asks to come back home for a couple of days I wouldn't refuse her just to follow the rules to a tee.

DorisDaisyMay · 08/11/2020 17:31

No I am not

dreamingofsun · 08/11/2020 17:38

well dorisdaisy i hope neither you or you family will need any hospital treatment since they seem to have stopped anything much because of the number of covid patients. And i also hope you dont pay much in the way of tax as that is likely to increase going forwards

RickOShay · 08/11/2020 17:39

@LakieLady
I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you are ok

DontCryForMeNextdoorNeighbour · 08/11/2020 17:41

@MissBaskinIfYoureNasty
Nobody cared about my health when I had to labour alone in lockdown 1. Nobody cares about the health and wellbeing of elderly people being isolated in nursing homes.

Of course people care - can you not understand that you being in labour alone, and elderly people being protected in nursing homes, are all for your/their own protection from covid? If you'd had people at your labour, and if the govt let people into nursing homes, and you/the nursing home residents caught covid, you'd all be outraged at the govt not trying to stop covid from entering those spaces.

MummaBear4321 · 08/11/2020 17:43

@mangothoughts

We as a family are following the rules but I know of, and have seen, lots of people that are not.

We need to face up to the fact we live in a country where a significant number of our population, I might even go as far as saying the majority, do not have a social conscience. They do not care about people dying as it is not their mother/father/brother/sister etc. They are only concerned with what affects their own lives as those of their direct family/friends.

I do understand that many have extra pressures in terms of income or job losses or mental health but there are many thousands of people who are ignoring the rules because they are just plain selfish or don't like being told what to do. If EVERYONE stuck to the rules in the first lockdown, during the rule of six and during the local lockdowns we would be in a far better position than we are in now.

I really disagree. I think compliance was very high during the first lockdown, and people did as they were told after. The government actively encouraged people to go out and spend and go to dinner and to the pubs. I think there is as much social conscience here as there is in any other country. Cases went up everywhere that took similar measures to us around the same time. There will always be people who dont comply, but that's human nature.

I think people forget that this is a virus, its nature, and it spreads despite best efforts. People like to blame those who caught the virus as if they were careless and silly. It's easier to blame the spread on humans rather than face the fact that it's one and only purpose is to spread. It's like being annoyed at someone for getting a cold. A virus cannot be 'controlled'. It can only be avoided for a while. Lockdown isnt a solution. It's just a delay tactic.

NorbertMeubles · 08/11/2020 17:44

I'm sticking to the rules. We are in this mess because people think rules don't apply to them. Selfish and entitled.

Wannakisstheteacher · 08/11/2020 17:48

@fastandthecurious how can that be? If you has symptoms even if you test negative you must still isolate for 14 days. If you didn't have symptoms but were told to isolate by track and trace you shouldn't have had a test so should have done 14 days...

CodenameVillanelle · 08/11/2020 17:48

@NorbertMeubles

I'm sticking to the rules. We are in this mess because people think rules don't apply to them. Selfish and entitled.

We are in this mess because there is a global pandemic. Nobody caused it and nobody is responsible for ending it.

HugeAckmansWife · 08/11/2020 17:49

I came across a particularly ludicrous 'rule' today. Needed school uniform. In our tesco, the clothes are upstairs and it was blocked off. I asked why and if someone would be able to get the items I needed. I was told it was regulations to block it off if it was on a different floor but stores all one level would have it available. So uniform is essential in one store but not another? Ridiculous. No wonder people are choosing their own path through this.