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#Trump thread No 111 and the count goes on.

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lionheart · 06/11/2020 22:22

Come on over and let's see this through to the end.

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Nancydrawn · 07/11/2020 00:08

CNN just reporting a new set of numbers: about 5100 votes, about 77% of which are Biden. They might call this soon.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/11/2020 00:09

Trump plans to barricade himself in the Oval Office and refuse to come out.
www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-no-concession

drspouse · 07/11/2020 00:12

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

I can't believe I left home at about six this morning, and I'm sure it was 253-214 then. Got home at about ten this evening, and it hasn't moved. I am beginning to think that the count consists of one solitary person plodding away in the flooded shed. How can it be soooooooooo slow?
I know!
TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/11/2020 00:16

Yes but how did it vote?

'I noticed a cat sitting on the shoulder of a voter at a polling station in Louisville, Kentucky. As I approached it turned to look at me. The man continued getting ready to cast his ballot as if having a cat on his shoulder while voting was completely normal' 📷 Bryan Woolston

#Trump thread No 111 and the count goes on.
Newjobnewslob · 07/11/2020 00:17

Just seen a report on cnn that trump is 'beginning to be realistic' about his lack of chance to surge from behind, also beginning to realise that a legal challenge in PA is pointless if he can't win AZ and GA

Not sure what that all means, but it sounds like a corner might be being turned.

Yohoheaveho · 07/11/2020 00:18

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Trump plans to barricade himself in the Oval Office and refuse to come out.
www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-no-concession[/quote]
😄
Get the popcorn in 🤣🤭

AcrossthePond55 · 07/11/2020 00:22

Thanks for the shiny new thread!

Hmmm, my likely scenario is that Trump will refuse to attend the inauguration and will use the distraction to slip away unnoticed. Like the coward he is, he's full of bluster but he'll deflate like a pig's bladder when he realizes that if he doesn't sneak off his departure (willing or otherwise) will be televised.

Actually, I don't think there will be much of a 'distraction'. I have a feeling that Joe's inauguration will be a small family only ceremony that will be live-streamed on all the networks. I can't see him suddenly disregarding the pandemic.

So at least Scrotus can take comfort in the fact that, indeed, his inaugural crowd was bigger than Biden's. 🙄

lyralalala · 07/11/2020 00:27

@PatriciaHolm

I read somewhere this week (read so much on so many different sources that I have no clue where!) that no one wants to be the state to call it and then be the ones to "blame"

Georgia has a republican Governor, who definitely doesn't want that!

They all know that as soon as anything is concrete, all hell will break lose from the White House, so they are all desperate to make sure everything is done absolutely to the letter to reduce the chances of Trump having any chance of challenging.

I thought the chap from Georgia earlier (I'm not sure if he was the Governor or Sec of State) was very careful with his wording about counting all of the legal votes and mentioning that he "had heard" that there were issues in other areas and that all "legal votes" should be counted.

He was so carefully on the fence between not actually letting on if he was saying "all the votes are legal so we're counting them" or "I agree with the president there are issues" that he'll be picking splinters for months.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 07/11/2020 00:31

This made me laugh a lot. Far too accurate! https://twitter.com/usamawajid22/status/1324595488696553472?s=21

lionheart · 07/11/2020 00:38

@TheNorthWestPawsage

Thanks lionheart you’ve been a trooper keeping the threads going through the slightly “quieter” times Smile
You too North.
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lionheart · 07/11/2020 00:40

Maybe they will have to send in the marines.

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PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 00:44

Anyone who's tempted to go for conspiracy theories about deliberate delays, turn on CNN where they've been doing wall-to-wall coverage in excruciating detail from a counting centre in Pennsylvania and talking to officials there and in Georgia.

It's pretty much blow-by-blow: "And now we've been able to start on this pile of 3572 ballots which are the mail-in ones received on Wednesday and have already had the postmark checked to show posted before Tuesday, and the signature checked, but where the ballot paper got damaged by the letter opener and can't go in the machine and has to be transcribed before it can be counted. We have a block of 2652 ballots which arrived from Whosit County on Monday but of course the court didn't allow us to start verifying signatures to prepare for the count until polling day itself, and we're only just starting on those now."

It's absolutely fascinating and they're clearly working very hard.

In Georgia (I think), they were explaining that they've received back 8000-odd ballot papers fewer than they mailed out. They're expecting to receive a number more than zero but less than 8000 from those outstanding papers, and as long as the postmark is on or before 3 Nov (IIRC but do check if you care about the detail), the vote will be legal.

Each state has different laws about dates for accepting ballot papers and when counting can start, so it's hard to keep track!

The Georgia folk were working down spreadsheets reading out exact number of ballots outstanding by district, and giving a running commentary from local knowledge, "But that district has a large military base, so that figure is larger than you'd otherwise expect."

Nancydrawn · 07/11/2020 00:46

John Fetterman's interviews are great. Are they showing in the UK? (He's the Lt. Gov. of PA)

boatyardblues · 07/11/2020 00:49

@PerkingFaintly

Anyone who's tempted to go for conspiracy theories about deliberate delays, turn on CNN where they've been doing wall-to-wall coverage in excruciating detail from a counting centre in Pennsylvania and talking to officials there and in Georgia.

It's pretty much blow-by-blow: "And now we've been able to start on this pile of 3572 ballots which are the mail-in ones received on Wednesday and have already had the postmark checked to show posted before Tuesday, and the signature checked, but where the ballot paper got damaged by the letter opener and can't go in the machine and has to be transcribed before it can be counted. We have a block of 2652 ballots which arrived from Whosit County on Monday but of course the court didn't allow us to start verifying signatures to prepare for the count until polling day itself, and we're only just starting on those now."

It's absolutely fascinating and they're clearly working very hard.

In Georgia (I think), they were explaining that they've received back 8000-odd ballot papers fewer than they mailed out. They're expecting to receive a number more than zero but less than 8000 from those outstanding papers, and as long as the postmark is on or before 3 Nov (IIRC but do check if you care about the detail), the vote will be legal.

Each state has different laws about dates for accepting ballot papers and when counting can start, so it's hard to keep track!

The Georgia folk were working down spreadsheets reading out exact number of ballots outstanding by district, and giving a running commentary from local knowledge, "But that district has a large military base, so that figure is larger than you'd otherwise expect."

This strikes me as very transparent and explains the process for citizens who may be getting caught up in the fraud conspiracy side of things. Democracy in action, to a mind-numbing level of detail but it does show the rigorous processes in place.
LadyWithLapdog · 07/11/2020 00:51

I’ve watched the spiritual woman several times now. I don’t know if I’m bemused or terrified.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 07/11/2020 00:52

Compare this with the respectful handover letters written by previous departing presidents to their successor.

#Trump thread No 111 and the count goes on.
PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 00:56

Agreed, boatyardblues, I think they're doing an excellent job in being transparent and making sure the citizens can see what's going on. There are poll observers visible too.

lyralalala · 07/11/2020 01:01

So the Supreme Court have ordered PA to keep the ballots that arrived after election day aside and to make sure they count them separate.

Which they've been doing already, but the PA Republicans went to court because they're not convinced all counties have been doing that.

DressingGownofDoom · 07/11/2020 01:06

@Zixxy

I see that BBC radio has removed the app and replaced it with Sounds.

I cannot log on or get into it anymore. I am not in UK what is the reason for this does anyone know?

Off topic I know, but I love R4.

You can only listen to BBC radio on certain platforms now, on my work desktop I can't listen on internet explorer but it works fine on chrome.
BoreOfWhabylon · 07/11/2020 01:10

Biden address coming up soon...

KenAdams · 07/11/2020 01:10

Hmm doesn't look like Biden is speaking any time soon if at all so I think I'll try and get some sleep. Night all.

KenAdams · 07/11/2020 01:11

Crossed posts @BoreOfWhabylon. Is he definitely speaking?

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/11/2020 01:13

BBC world service has just said it's expected soon.