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#Trump thread No 111 and the count goes on.

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lionheart · 06/11/2020 22:22

Come on over and let's see this through to the end.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/11/2020 23:30

hurrah, old thread done.

BoreOfWhabylon · 06/11/2020 23:32

Fascinating analysis going on now on the Radio 4 programme I linked to up there ^^

Trump has always used lawsuits to bully and intimidate, it's his MO. He's just trying to muddy the waters.

He also has a bunch of lawyers no one has ever heard of, none of the high flyers will go near any of it.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 06/11/2020 23:32

I feel like all the states are dithering as none want to be the ones that make it official and open themselves up to possible anger.

boatyardblues · 06/11/2020 23:32

Marking my place for tomorrow’s catch-up read.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/11/2020 23:35

It'll be be declared Monday 7:30 am won't it and we will all be wondering if it's acceptable to start the week with fizz.

Zixxy · 06/11/2020 23:36

@boatyardblues

Marking my place for tomorrow’s catch-up read.
Don't tell anyone you are placemarking. I am not liking it at all lol. It is lighthearted from me, but I still don't get it.

Another rant over. For now....

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2020 23:36

Patience required

FiveThirtyEight @FiveThirtyEight

Allegheny County officials say it will probably take a few days to get through their remaining votes, so Pennsylvania counting isn’t ending tonight.

TheOneTheOnlyPedroPony · 06/11/2020 23:37

@NonCisWoman

I'm not much into conspiracies, but I can't help but feel that there's something fishy going on. These 6 states that will decide the election have been on the last 20% or so for days. Whichever announces next will likely be announcing the presidency, yet nobody has?
I read somewhere this week (read so much on so many different sources that I have no clue where!) that no one wants to be the state to call it and then be the ones to "blame"
MoonJelly · 06/11/2020 23:38

@NonCisWoman

Is it bad that I'm hoping that the "and strike and strike and strike" lady does another prayer? She's been my favourite part of this count so far!
I'm just wondering what she'll do if and when Biden wins. Is she going to blame God (or Gud as she says) for ignoring her prayers?
anewdispensation · 06/11/2020 23:39

Hurray to new thread. I have a throbbing headache from being up till 3am this morning but I am on knifes edge here and just want at least one of the states to confirm

QuestionableDanceMoves · 06/11/2020 23:39

A lot of the states are around the 96/97% mark for votes counted but they’ve been declared by the AP because they’re not close- the remaining states (other than Alaska and NC) slowness is just more noticeable because we’re all waiting on them.
With all the lawsuits flying around the counters will be triple checking every last ballot because they know they’re under more scrutiny

PatriciaHolm · 06/11/2020 23:40

I read somewhere this week (read so much on so many different sources that I have no clue where!) that no one wants to be the state to call it and then be the ones to "blame"

Georgia has a republican Governor, who definitely doesn't want that!

They all know that as soon as anything is concrete, all hell will break lose from the White House, so they are all desperate to make sure everything is done absolutely to the letter to reduce the chances of Trump having any chance of challenging.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/11/2020 23:43

Thanks lionheart you’ve been a trooper keeping the threads going through the slightly “quieter” times Smile

Zixxy · 06/11/2020 23:45

I see that BBC radio has removed the app and replaced it with Sounds.

I cannot log on or get into it anymore. I am not in UK what is the reason for this does anyone know?

Off topic I know, but I love R4.

Lweji · 06/11/2020 23:46

Lead increase in Pennsylvania. 17 012

Nancydrawn · 06/11/2020 23:47

I am loving the Philly memes.

HoldMyLobster · 06/11/2020 23:48

Here you go, complete with head bopping cat 🐈 grin
mobile.twitter.com/Soapmoine/status/1324286193106898944

For anyone who hasn't watched this, you really should.

It's just amazing.

Newjobnewslob · 06/11/2020 23:50

I just saw something on cnn I think explaining why PA was being slow, there is still uncertainty, not much but how much is unknown.

There are 200k ballots outstanding.

Half are mail ins, will favour Biden. However they don't know how many will have to be discarded (I think due to eg inner envelopes?)

The other half are provisionals, and these might well favour Trump. They have no real feel for how much they could favour him.

That's the reason why they're being so hesitant to conclude anything - it is very unlikely the discard + provisional skew could lead to a trump surge big enough, but its unknown.

It would be nice if the certainty could come from elsewhere, but that won't be GA, or NV, so we've got AZ and NC left. I haven't been following them recently but haven't seen announcements imminent.

So yes, another sleepless night.

Delphinium20 · 06/11/2020 23:52

A lot of the states are around the 96/97% mark for votes counted but they’ve been declared by the AP because they’re not close

Important reminder. Those election workers hand counting deserve some respect. I can't imagine their stress (and possibly fear from crazy gun-toting Trumpers).

Travelledtheworld · 06/11/2020 23:53

Zixxy just go to the BBC website
www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j#on-now

LethargicLumpOfLockdownLard · 06/11/2020 23:54

Following the money, after reading the New Yorker article @lionheart posted I came across this by searching for the Honest Elections Project (funding Trump's legal actions against the voting). This really was the plan all along, wasn't it?

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/27/honest-elections-project-conservative-voting-restrictions

Dustballs · 07/11/2020 00:01

Sorry - I don't know whether this has been posted already? An interview with Mary Trump ...

www.channel4.com/news/mary-trump-on-donald-trump-if-he-thinks-hes-going-down-hes-going-to-try-to-take-the-rest-of-us-down-with-him

I hope the link works.

Maybe this is why there is so much delay. Perhaps they should delay the result for as long as possible. It sounds as though the longer Trump has to seek revenge and cause chaos - he will - so perhaps the delay is to reduce that opportunity.

Zixxy · 07/11/2020 00:03

[quote Travelledtheworld]Zixxy just go to the BBC website
www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j#on-now[/quote]
Thank you so much for that link.

DuncinToffee · 07/11/2020 00:06

A bit of an update on Arizona

Nate Cohn @nate_cohn

The ballots in from AZ tonight aren't looking great for Trump. Biden just led Yuma's update, where Trump led the count so far. It's the first post-election ballot dump where he's outran the tabulated vote count, at least that I remember.
If that holds in the Maricopa wave...

ForTheLoveOfFaff · 07/11/2020 00:07

WTF is that "strike" spiritual advisor woman doing?!? Is it a genuine video?!? Confused